Message from @.B
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Pocahontas wasn't silenced by a violent mob, though.
I never said she was. I simply point out that "conservatives shut down a liberal speaker" as the question stated.
There was no mention of "violent mobs" in the question. And however force is used, whether it be by a "mob" or some other mechanism available to a majority in an instance, it's still silencing. If she'd continued speaking, Dr Warren would have been invited by the Sergeant at Arms to return to her desk. Force, however respectable, was being applied to silence a liberal speaker saying something that conservatives did not like. I'd like my $100 to be contributed to Star Wars Theory so that we can get closer to a second episode of their Vader story arc. 😃
The world needs more decent Star Wars, not the stuff Disney is shoveling 😕
Amen
@DrYuriMom mate, she was stopped from a debate
what is even your point here?
That conservatives shut down a liberal speaker, exactly as stated in the question you linked
Free Speech doesn't mean you can speak everywhere
the question was _on collegue campus_
you didn't even remain on topic
she wasn't in any event. She wasn't silenced
She was free to go to any event and say whatever she wanted there
I'll admit I was only responding to the question posed in the link thumbnail
Not being given air time in a debate isn't "silencing"
Not being given a stage in a debate isn't "silencing"?
if you go to an event and you decide to scream from your seat, you will be "silenced" too
Honestly, we're likely on the same page in that I detest the silencing of debate on college campuses. I just lived through my own experience where threat to safety absolutely did silence liberal speakers on college campuses when I went to college.
Go back to the civil rights era and people ended up in hospitals for speaking out on college campuses
I detested it in the 60's, I detested it in the 80's/90's, and I detest it now.
How's that for silencing on a college campus?
there shouldnt be silencing on campuses
or any schools
Agreed
the moment it is uniformaly agreed on whole campus and you have a bubble with one idea then something is wrong
You are kinda missing the point of the question if you have to use examples from 50 years ago
the point was not to discuss history
Maybe that's because my experience as a college student is 30 years old :p
My personal experience is my reality
it's like the slavery talk, when someone says reps wanted to end slavery and people try to dig for examples of reps that owned slaves. It's besides the point
Fair, I guess
So my life experience is beside the point 😿
But I highly doubt that people on the right wouldn't support you if you were protesting for free speech for people on the left
I can't say as I am now close to 50 years old and haven't exercised campus free speech in a rather long time. I just know that silencing has a long, terrible history. Historically it has been the right who has wielded the club. Now it may well be the left (although that may not be the case on a religious campus). Just because those doing the silencing may have changed, doesn't make it any less wrong.
I agree with Tim that college is where kids (should) go to be exposed to a multitude of ideas. If that is not happening, the system is broken and needs to be reexamined. It saddens me to hear Tim repeat his derision for college attandance. I loved it and I've worked my ass off for 25 years to make sure my kids can go without any debt.
Silencing also has a long, wonderful history.