Welp https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11082

lmao

Crowder put up an interesting video today on that topic...

How did the left get so damned violent

Also I heard that the brits want to get American Idiot to the top charts during Trump's visit.

Id say thats ironic, but its the Brit wit I expect anyway these days.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/opinion/democratic-socialism-alexandria-ocasio-cortez.html

How did the Right get so giddy over Big Goverment?

What do you mean?

Republicans are against big government

Personally I'm a neutral, but I know enough about both sides

I think he means with keeping ICE

Thats part of govt

In name only. Today's Republicans are in favor of the Military-Industrial Complex, the Drug War, and Corporate Welfare.

What you talking about? Repubs are for legalizing marijuana.

With Jeff Sessions at the helm of the DOJ. Good luck.

I said they want, whether or not they can, well another question entirely.

He was my former State Senator. I should know.

Nah I know his stance as well

There's a vast difference between the people who vote and the political parties.

And I was sure that Trump was more isolationist, and less pro interventionist.

Yeah, I dont get the big govt part of that comment.

I understand the argument.

I guess I was thinking the average voter.

While he meant the senators and politicians

Basically, the Republican side of things tends to fund military above other things.

That is very true, I didnt think of it that way

One of the main differences between republican 'big government' and democrat 'big government' is that the republican side of things, the government is facing outward, so to speak.

I, for instance, am not opposed to a powerful government framework to protect from external threats.

But I'm not so okay with government funding industries, art, or various other unnecessary things.

Federal government shouldn't be in our day to day lives.

I don't think the assessment that conservatives are for 'corporate welfare', if I understand what he means.

So in other words, rpubs are for the millitary, dems for the police

No business should be too big to fail.

Well I think he means bailouts

Bank bailouts, while I know the average voters stance on that. I dont know much about the politicians

Still repubs for big govt? I guess its a different perspective on it then.

I guess they are okay as long as the govt is facing outwards threats instead of policing their own.

wellllll......

There IIIIIIIIISSSSS the archaic specter of the Drug War.

And the abolition?

Is that what its called?

Oh shit I'm a nazi now

Well, classical liberal™

ha mine is almost exactly the same

Cool, Heil

I think I'm 1 tick down

Similar to mine as well

More libertarian, then?

Nazi is top right, lmao

And commie is top left

I remember that meme

I need to find it

Oh I know, I was using the social justice nazi

But technically nazi would be top left

Or centrist top

Well, it just prooves that authoritharian vs libertarian isnt a strictly left or right thing

do 8values, political compass sucks

too lazy to redo that test

So I guess when the left goes too far, you get communism, when the right goes too far you get the KKK and when the centrist goes too far, it's nazism

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/306/525/bbb.jpg

Awww that's adorable

agreed

Probably my favourite Political compass meme

But yeah 8 values is better in my opinion

Lemme do 8 values

And for how political it is, ISideWith is also pretty decent, but alot more thorough

political compass is way more memeable, that's it's primary advantage

Its simpler and faster to getthrough

that too

blame brianna wu

Lol i got neo liberal

ohno

yeah i did too last time

Yeah might be tad inaccurate there.

Oh god

I went back to my results for ISideWith and guess what? A year ago I was with Trump.

@GingaBomber wow

Now it says Shapiro

This will give you an idea

https://www.isidewith.com/profile/3341545997/ballot/2020-presidential

The whole thing is so very thorough

This answer is so good man https://www.quora.com/What-is-wrong-with-banning-hate-speech/answer/Cholan-Raje?share=51052b5e&srid=uoNNa

Laws you make can and will be enforced against you in the future

Also, what the hell is a neo liberal?

I did ISideWith and got Rand Paul

but here is the real question

why is Kanye not on here?

Kinda close both

Only a 5% diff on my end

Isidewith is great.

Well, its great if you want a very thorough answer

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/3382688851

Not many have the time to bother

Yeah I got that as well last time I did the test,

SO its kinda funny getting shapiro this time.

Maybe cause I answered yes for alot of questions regarding transparency, small govt, and honesty

You don't get a candidate exactly. It's more you get a percentage and pick who you want.

https://i.imgur.com/1K8Okxv.png

doesn't look like i've budged an inch since the last time i did this test

@GingaBomber clinton style corporate liberal i think

Refer to the pic I poster ealier lol

that's exactly where i remember my dot being lol

neoliberal oof

Yeah, which I definately am not

http://prntscr.com/k4kin7

but i actually dont think that 8values is very good anymore

Same as well

@angeryer because yeezus is a wild card

Eh Ill try the ISideWith again

Got some free time

can you imagine instead of maga hats

everyone buying yeezys

the yeezy market would go insane

oh jeez

woke

*checks bank acount*

checks out.

Oof

so many people are in normie tier now and i'm just not very talkative :c

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=40.2&d=49.5&g=59.2&s=62.4

Whats normie anyway?

I've been too busy to talk. :/

So its a MEE6 rank?

i have too many haters to dab on

Get normie at certain level?

normie is the tier i'll be in when y'all are max tier

I'm a liberalist

Yeah, not too much a fan of it

Its just 1-5 score per question

too moderate on everything, gulag

Tho arnt most people here rather libertarian?

Well

The only difference is between tradition - progressive

I'm more libertarian yes

But still a filthy statist

Free market doesn't solve everything optimally

I keep getting neo-con in 8values somehow. Ew

Free market only solves the issues the majority wants fixed.

Like, if there was a poisoned product released

What happens? Do we wait for enough people to die?

Until the reviews come in?

It should be up to the people to punish the company by suing and refusing patronage. However for that to happen, we need the people to be properly educated.

And quick as well.

And what about environmental violations?

Until that happens, you will need a governing authority.

Companies do horrible shit sometimes

To punish companies that infringe on the people.

Like releasing mercury into water

And the libertarian movement has basically been taken over by ancaps anyway

Or that both are hard to differenciate theese days

THe line between both is rather thin

Except I recall, libertarians accept that you will need a governing authority to enforce laws. The law being that you can do whatever as long as you dont mess with another individual

noticed the 8values results of someone, i dont like some of the questions, they come off as Gotcha Questions but otherwise this seems accurate

Gatcha?

Gotcha

Oh

my b

but yea some of them dont give you much room to work with imo

Like theres the one on guns

some are just vague

Like disagree can mean, no ban all guns, or no, people should not have to prove why they need one

i need to do the other test when i have more time

yep its weirdly worded sometimes

I dont like it to beh onest

I like how ISideWith has more options besides yes/no

Issue is that it takes a long time to do

yea

its more accurate as a result though

and iirc it lets you answer your own questions sometimes

I mean, its basically political compass but more thorough

Reeeeeeeeee http://prntscr.com/k4kq06

Such a crappy test.

Damn, you more free market than I am

I'm more libertarian than authoritarian IRL.

THats closer to whatI thought I would be, except the statist part

yea i took it during last Pres. Elect

More libertarian

This is more accurate http://prntscr.com/k4kqg4

Yeah gimme half an hour, Im halfway through the test

http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/ this is a better one

Hell reminds me of my brother. Whos very soft spoken bout politics

ANd he ended up more conservative than I am

but its very long, 117 questions

30 more than 8values

well its 16 values 😛

genesis does!

Eh Ill give it a ho

ill do it tomorrow lol

Same

though i got some strange results just now from it

its mostly the same as when i took it 6 months ago, and most of what has changed are things i kinda saw coming with becoming more desisive on some politics than i use to be. but now its saying ive become more laissez-faire when i use to be more regulationist

which doesent make since because i feel like ive never been more regulationist in my life

here is my result this year anyway

Wierd

So I assume you are the star?

which party is the star?

Legend says that its supposed to represend you

So I guess its just your opinions

ok so who is the torch?

Libertarians

Uh heres the list

Huh oprahs on the list

thing is i dont think im laissez-faire

So heres all the candidates on the scales

Soo... youtube wants to improve its news experierience by partnering with the main stream media... 😒

not a single personal freedom lol

Which? I kinda find wierd, since the left lean authoritharian if not center

how come the top and bottom are flipped in that chart lol

I think thats personal freedom is listed as individualism

and ikr lago

not a single person in the same quadrant as me

Yeah wtf with the candidates

tbh Dems and Repubs both typically land in right authoritarian

Why are the left leaning ones leaning authoritharian

And the right leaning ones more libertarian

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

and the closest one to me appears to be oprah

y

paradigm shift my man we in the middle of it

maybe its purely economic

imo

@I AM ERROR That's been a thing for a while. they cozied up with Youtube TV a while back.

it does say economic freedom

for shapiro and such

thats kinda weird

kinda a hard to understand chart

like the idea you cant be for personal freedom on the right

Well says under here

though i do kinda understand that you cant be economic freedom on the left

ah shit ima Normie now lol just noticed

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~~~

I seriously think its related to MEE6 ranking you

normies get out

Like it happened when i reached rank 10

Arch your normie too

not at heart

!rank

ANd in participation, arch is one of the top 3

of course

well probably not anymore

Who in here would be lol

!rank

!rank