This is not a convincing argument.

neither is your "Oh I dont see it happening, so its magic" argument

Dozens of pundits are not starving due to patreon, therefore ???

Elon Musk, notorious optimist, claims that one-way travel to Mars will cost $250,000 in current dollars by 2050.

Being a little more realistic I think we can say that merely traveling to another planet will still be outside the means of a low-skilled worker for the remainder of my lifetime at least. Let alone being able to afford the cost of living there without a skill.

thats only cuz theres no race to get there ASAP

So Joe Truckdriver ain't going to get a ticket to Mars to solve his financial problems.

This is a nonsense argument.

Nor is he going to get Patreon support.

You realise it took less than 20 years to get to the moon right? Cuz we finally wanted to

I think I'm a little better positioned than Joe Truckdriver to survive in the coming economy, but if I had to live off Patreon money I think I'd starve.

How many people live on the moon.

This is silly.

Thats so not the point

Yes it is

Zero money is generated on the moon.

yes and thats not the point

You are being silly.

the point was that you can easily upgrade space-flight if you just get a competitive market for it

Why not talk about replicators and warp drives \

now who's being silly

Or fucking stargates

We could all just warp to a new planet.

"Oh i don't see it happening, therefore it must be impossibruuu"

Wanna go pray to the sky-gods for rain too?

There could be a competitive market for stargates.

We could have Apple stargates that would be white glossly plastic, and Google stargates that could be all matte black.

so your argument is, You saw Star Trek on tv, therefore space flight is impossible

No I'm very bullish on SpaceX. But it's not in any way shape or form a solution to problems in the labor market coming in the next ten years.

This is happening right now.

Space colonization is not going to happen in our lifetimes.

You're the one using SpaceX as the template

The next generation might see small bases. The generation after that might see self-sustaining.

so 20 years?

But we have to deal with the real world now, and waving your hands and saying SPACE is not real.

50 years is self-sustaining, got it

I'm going to stop talking to you now because it's clear you're not a serious person.

You're the one who can't even get his arguments straight

you do know a generation is ~25 years right?

so by your own words, you have self-sustaining bases in 50 years

thats atleast MY lifetime, maybe not for you

but hey, keep on believing in TV

fun fact, I'm talking to you by electrocuting Sand 😉

Poor sand 🙁

you're doing it too! 😛

Silicone... IS PEOPLE!! i mean...

IS SAND!!

Do love your argumenting Atkins

"You think Sci-fi!"
"Lets build stargate"
"I'm gonna stop arguing cuz you're not serious"

I think we should build something feasible first, like a Death Star

but Antifa will fire torpedos into the core 😦

Nah, it'd be intelligence agencies that do that. Antifa would be banging on the side panels and wondering why nothing was happening

touché

I think atkins went on a chat diet @Dr.Wol

he's gonna need it when the big replacement comes

Ha ha lol

No, see, that's why we start with the SEcond Death Star design

No thermal exhaust ports big enough to kill it with

It won't work! they'll fire a trigglypuff into it, and block the exhaust 😦

and we'll all explode

I would love to see a Trigglypuff somehow fit into a 1mm thermal exhaust port

Because that's what the plans for the Second Death Star called for

millions of 1mm wide, non-straight thermal exhaust ports all over the surface

just need a bigger cannon to slug her into them 😉

or it goes Splat and covers many

Jelly bomb

"The radar, sir! It appears to be... *jammed*"

"Let me see that. Raspberry... there's only one man in the universe who would *dare* give me raspberry... *LONE STARR*"

Use the ultimate weapon, fastforwarding the security data

"It's the latest development in film technology, sir. *Instant* movies! They're in stores before the movie is done!"

Go to... LUDICROUS SPEED

Watching Styx. I love his idea for a non-lethal police weapon: Weed bombs.

*gasp* "Ludicrous speed? But sir, we've never gone that fast"

I guess the only thing to worry about is mass cases of the munchies with that kind of thing

Whats a matter colonel Sanders? CHICKEN?

Munchies will be covered by fast-food restaurants

So the peopel burning the cities down, end up patroning the locals

Good thing, too. Antifa will give enough business to locals that they'll be able to afford replacing the windows that Antifa smashed.

https://youtu.be/vk0bvYhNBBM?t=8m20s

exactly

U.S. airline worker steals plane, takes it for flight before crashing it - Reuters
https://apple.news/A_Vs4z8sDR_6fHaw3GRWU0Q

Real news

The best part about that would be that if any of the protesters are federal employees, they'll think twice about starting into riot mode, because if they get drug tested after an antifa protest, the weed would show up in their system, and since the federal government still considers marijuana to be illegal, they'll be fired

brilliant

Opium gas grenades

...Of course that airplane story takes place in Seattle

Here's a beautiful snippet from the BBC article posted in <#398858182455459853>

Poor sod was probably stoned out of his gourd

The man who is refered to by what is believed to be his first name,

Thats a very long and interesting name

Who the hell is called "What is believed to be his first name" Jenkins or something?

Maybe his parents were stoned out of their gourds when they named him

can I cann him Wibtbhfn for short?

Wibtbhfn 😛

His friends probably did

"Hey Wibtbhfn, you got a stick of gum? My breath is pretty rank."

Actually, they may have even shortened that to just "Wib" as a nickname

By the way, completely unrelated, but Dr.Wol, have you seen Shiv online at all in the last few weeks, or is she ded?

She ded afaik, haven't seen her online, and her ME6 score is still the same value its been since the bolted

Yeah he's probably a little broken

Guys at what point is a protest treason? Like people are literally calling for an end to the USA, is that treason? If that isn't what is?

Actually trying to end the USA