Acts of sabotage

Yeah, it isn't treason until they actually try to overthrow the government

or kill the President

Is destroying a recruitment base not an act of sabotage?

People calling for an end to the USA is closer to sedition, I think

What about blocking roads? Are they not actually trying to take down the government when they roit?

I dunno

That's a gray area, because there are enough roads that people can find another way

Lol that true but sometimes they're on like main roads and bridges. But what about in January 17 when antifa literally through garbage in the streets started fires broke windows to bank of America and Starbucks. Like when do we say this is treason?

@Timcast any ideas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fOOOS3goms

media wars have begun

@tmg copper tom covered that i believe

@tmg copper id like to know as well when it's called treason

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

You're talking about the j20 protests right? Yeah I know he covered them but I feel like no one really is talking about where we draw the line on treason

Emerald City

Does that include sanctuary cities?

Maybe when the Supreme Court is more solidly conservative.

I've seen that so many damn times under Trump's tweets

people think it's clever

I feel like that's a bad standard. If people are out in the streets throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails and fox piss are they not waging war?

@tmg copper my internet is kil using my phone ...

@Rabbi Shekels lol sorry.

internet is back .... had a thunderstorm last night not sure wtf is going on

If people are burning our flag are they our enemies? Pretty sure if your showing disdain for a country your supposed to fly the flag upside down, burning it is definitely extreme

civ·il war
ˌsivil ˈwô(ə)r/Submit
noun
a war between citizens of the same country.

If a civil war breaks out I'd probably just take refuge in Spokane and join some local militia group

@RanStairs I guess my question then becomes are we waiting for someone to officially declare civil war or are we in one? Whose on what side? Can we even defend ourselves?

This is not worse than the 1950s and 60s

I'd say there would need to be open armed revolt against the sitting government to be a war. Which there isn't really. There is civil unrest but they still use the established systems to try and get their parties into office.

@tmg copper when It becomes more clear. I'm thinking actual right-wing death squads and socialist concentration camps in cali

@Grenade123 how can that be they're literally willing to let people change the system to there benefit.

I'm talking about allowing illegals to vote

to be fair, slaves where once illegals.

but it's still a political fight with civil unrest.

I doubt there will be an actual civil war unless the left got into power and started getting tyrannical in a hurry. Right now the side who wants guns is also the side mostly aligned with the sitting government. Which means either the opposition needs to abandoned their position of disarming citizens to start a civil war, or those who do use arms are a fringe minority, even if they are not disowned.

So the picture Tim had in one of his videos of the shell in the helmet is fake.

When the main supporters of the Democratic party become a literal army, then you have a civil war. Or if the government attempts to crack down on the right.

If they ever ban all guns, we shall see how willing the people are to overthrow the government

Yeah banning all guns wont end well...

CURSED

The Portland police asked whoever posted the picture of the helmet with the projectile in it to bring it by so that they can examine it meaning they suspect it to be fake

@Grenade123 I think it just depends how radical you're willing to make your supporters.

What if the left is attacking people trying to support something they don't like? Is that something we should take into account? What about when the left calls for Nazis to be punched and everyone is a nazi are these open incitement of war?

They might as well have 1000's of anarchists attack the capital to start a civil war

@d3adlyz3bra do you have proof that it's fake , can't say im surprised that it is fake though

@tmg copper That's more of conflict that eventually rolls up into a war

The Portland police havent inspected the helmet cuz the person doesnt want to bring it to them lol

@d3adlyz3bra ahh ok , i wouldn't be surprised if they don't come in

but .... who ever tweeted should be investigated

If they dont present it then I would just assume it's fake.

Don't know if this is a good thing, I'm happy known of (((them))) died yet

Now is not worse than the civil Rights movement. This is not a civil war. And im tired of people being so fucking weak that they think this is a civil war. We are not fucking Syria.

Cuz if it's real what would they have to lose

If we had a civil war right now it would be over in hours

The last thing we need is a couple of dead anarchists to start a rally cry

@d3adlyz3bra exactly but ..... it's antifa and they don't like police ....

maybe if they turn it in they get arest ?

One side is trained better than the military and the other is triggered by the thought of a gun

antifa likes the police when they need someone arrested.

Arrested for what tho?

They also want guns given up to them.

Theres nothing they could get charged with

Arrested for assault

Of course

For bringing in the helmet

@d3adlyz3bra You're not thinking logistically. Anarchists don't have much guns, but they have cities and it's not easy to takeover cities

No the helmet thing

When they want a proud boy arrested for hate speech, or assault

antifa is anti facist but wants a supposedly facist government to take guns away .... makes sense

Its pretty easy for marines lol

They still support a government faction

@Grenade123 which doesnt make sense at all

@d3adlyz3bra I guess that's true

Have they ever made sense?

They call themselves anti facist yet are racist.

@Grenade123 what about when people like Eric Clapton was arrested and charged and convicted but had all serious crimes dropped? People can get arrested and face no consequences

That's typical corruption. And is nothing new

Arrest is not conviction, yes.

Arrest is just a subduing.

the people in antifa are larpers. The moment they actually get into a fight with their opposition, they end up with brain damage

Easy set up

"End UP with?!"

😉

They hide behind mobs which only works when there is no guns involved

@Grenade123 they should learn to LARP real jobs

They should

agree

@Grenade123 They're still radical, if they die, they get what they want, in which they just use it as example to fight more

I'm unemployed as well.

And have been for some time.

im just so fucking surprised that they would harrass candace owens and not have one fucking minority in thier group like dude wtf

they cant even protest right

Will antifa ever have a moment of clarity where they realise they're attacking innocent people? How do we get them to have it?

@Rabbi Shekels They already do when they scream about being for the working class

Morning, gents

im not a fan of candace owens but white antifa harrassing her .... umm didnt they think that it would looks racist ?