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You've yet to explain to me that he doesn't believe what he believes/says.
Joe rogan will be critical of the right and left. Tim pool is 90 percent anti left slant
You -- again, I will state this yet another time: Are diluting the word grifter from someone just being partisan.
@Maw how many times do I have to repeat he claims to be non partisan after you say he is partisan
Do you even know what his views on healthcare are?
Or on green energy?
or public college?
or wasteful defense spending?
@Adam135 yes his stated points. That doesnโt change the fact he plays into a right wing base exclusively
You're insane.
@TaLoN132 that's interesting but also in many of these cases they need the governor to sign off on a special session or they cant do stuff to begin with
Look man think what you want
That's the equivalent of calling someone a c*ck without even knowing it means the husband of an adulteress, but just using it to anyone who has a different political view
Believe that he is some leftist
Joe Rogan has shifted way right... A lot of these personalities have seen what Trump has found in a 50m+ base that are fiercely loyal to anyone that supports their point of view - that's a gold mine to someone trying to attract eyeballs/ears. You've seen the same thing with Ben Shapiro. Compare the shows they did 2-4 years ago to now and it seems like completely different show, in my opinion.
I believe he's a traditional liberal, as he's stated numerous times, and he has the political policy preference to reflect that.
He's even very forthcoming about his own bias, something most pundits can't seem to do.
Remember, the political axis is filled with multiple layers.
No. The left has clearly shifted further left
@TaLoN132 yeah he had but he still seems to attempt to have consistency of outrage
Yeah, it doesn't just pivot one way or the other
These people stayed where they are
@Maw I believe he is a grifter that sees a goldmine of loyal trump fans looking for a home
The current political spectrum goes beyond two dimensional...
He hasn't claimed to be unbiased, pretty sure. He's claimed that he's trying to be unbiased before.
Hence, why he invites people of different opinions on his show
@Adam135 well show where he goes after the right with the same intensity and force he goes after the left. Like in the example of media bias
Something who "caters to a right-wing base" doesn't do that.
He pretty well explains his "woke" experince though Greenwald does so more elegantly.
@Adam135 thatโs only recently . Have you seen his show over the past 4 years. Itโs mainly people he agrees with.
when some people were demanding that Trump declare martial law, he was very outspoken against it.
@james j Most people refused to go onto the show with him. lol If you actually have watched his videos.
Lots.
Or, traditional liberals are now realizing the truth.
You guys are blind
I'm pretty sure @james j is showing us what a grifter is by acting like one.
Good one
i.e a snake oil hustler
Adam, chill with the personal attacks please.
Maybe you guys will learn about slants and balanced outrage one day
Until then enjoy being fooled
Both sides do it.
I literally complain about it all the time.
Again for the thousandth time
My granddad always used to say> "be careful with any man claiming the truth. He will try to sell you something before the crow has crashed."
I personally seek out independent thinkers. It's what drew me to Robert's live stream. I have listened to a ton of Joe Rogan and there has been a shift (admittedly, I may have exaggerated with a couple of unnecessary ways). I don't blame him, I am pro capitalism, but the shows are way different. He is always accommodating to his guests and polite. He's a unique interviewer - gets people to say stuff a be themselves. I like it. I just noticed a shift over time. Ben Shapiro's cut from the same cloth as Tucker Carlson, in my opinion. They purely cater to their audiences.
He even claims he has his bias but tries to be as unbiased as possible, and that everyone should look the things that he brings up for themselves, quite frequently might I add.
Classical or traditional liberal ideals are center or just left of center right now... the left has gone left
Some people are so blinded by their own views they are unable to see anything from other perspectives.
@TaLoN132 So what you are saying is that in a free market, those speaking will largely be whores?
Not to mention, a right-wing grifter wouldn't get along very well nor agree with Jimmy Dore
Is this a literal translation of a colloquialism, by chance? What is "crow has crashed"? (Forgive me, I am curious this way.)
Who invited Tim on his show once, and they had a long thoughtful discussion
I have he overemphasis positives on the right while down playing positives on the left while minimizing negatives on the right (for things he just spent a while show complaining about from the left) and over emphasizing positives on the right. Never steps on the toes of his base and boom you have a successful conservative show. All while claiming to be a unbiased leftist @Maw
His audience is too dumb to tell
The neoliberal class of what traditional liberals would essentially call "Republican"
and aphasia
He may literally believe he's center-left.
He could very well be wrong.
@Adam135 thatโs not true at all. Jimmy dore actually still supports leftist policies but hates establishment democrats. He doesnโt soothe the soft underbelly of conservatives all day
gonna rest for a bit... bbl
But you're claiming he doesn't hold these views if you claim he's a grifter.
Just observing. Shhh donโt drag me into this shit ๐
wait for the right swimmer and with lightening speed nibble off a sizable chunck.
Naw, that's not how it works.
Grifting is the idea of you're swindling people or being a con-man.
Would also mention that Trump is a lot more centrist and less traditional "Republican" now. I listen to a lot of Steve Bannon to try and understand what Trump is since he was essentially selected.
You are claiming to be something you believe you are actually not.
There is a difference.
@Doc I see... That's understandable. My dislike for not understanding things has been satiated. Much appreciated.
Like...a gender? ๐
Tim pool puts on a show like he is some centrist liberal and you guys just fall for it
Pff.
Bro.
I don't even watch him much.
To claim Tim is a grifter, you would need him to swear under oath that he only creates content for the sole purpose of getting donations from right-leaning people. He for years has emphasized how important it is to him to do work and provide commentary on things he believes in. That is the very opposite of a grifter.
Only reason I defend him is because you literally attack him all the time.
And attack his viewers.
Of which quite a few enjoy this show.
If a tomcat thinks he's a lynx but he's not, it doesn't make him a grifter. Delusional or misled, maybe?
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