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2020-12-04 22:46:59 UTC

He caters to his base which are right wing @Adam135 he knows that

2020-12-04 22:47:18 UTC

You've yet to explain to me that he doesn't believe what he believes/says.

2020-12-04 22:47:41 UTC

Joe rogan will be critical of the right and left. Tim pool is 90 percent anti left slant

2020-12-04 22:47:43 UTC

You -- again, I will state this yet another time: Are diluting the word grifter from someone just being partisan.

2020-12-04 22:48:13 UTC

@Maw how many times do I have to repeat he claims to be non partisan after you say he is partisan

2020-12-04 22:48:24 UTC

Do you even know what his views on healthcare are?

2020-12-04 22:48:29 UTC

Or on green energy?

2020-12-04 22:48:33 UTC

or public college?

2020-12-04 22:48:38 UTC

Itโ€™s making a finer point on grifting not diluting @Maw

2020-12-04 22:48:42 UTC

or wasteful defense spending?

2020-12-04 22:49:06 UTC

@Adam135 yes his stated points. That doesnโ€™t change the fact he plays into a right wing base exclusively

2020-12-04 22:49:09 UTC

You're insane.

2020-12-04 22:49:21 UTC

You are insane or blind @Adam135

2020-12-04 22:49:26 UTC

@TaLoN132 that's interesting but also in many of these cases they need the governor to sign off on a special session or they cant do stuff to begin with

2020-12-04 22:49:28 UTC

Look man think what you want

2020-12-04 22:50:01 UTC

That's the equivalent of calling someone a c*ck without even knowing it means the husband of an adulteress, but just using it to anyone who has a different political view

2020-12-04 22:50:03 UTC

Believe that he is some leftist

2020-12-04 22:50:18 UTC

Sure man @Adam135

2020-12-04 22:50:59 UTC

Joe Rogan has shifted way right... A lot of these personalities have seen what Trump has found in a 50m+ base that are fiercely loyal to anyone that supports their point of view - that's a gold mine to someone trying to attract eyeballs/ears. You've seen the same thing with Ben Shapiro. Compare the shows they did 2-4 years ago to now and it seems like completely different show, in my opinion.

2020-12-04 22:51:00 UTC

I believe he's a traditional liberal, as he's stated numerous times, and he has the political policy preference to reflect that.

2020-12-04 22:51:30 UTC

He's even very forthcoming about his own bias, something most pundits can't seem to do.

2020-12-04 22:51:57 UTC

Remember, the political axis is filled with multiple layers.

2020-12-04 22:52:05 UTC

No. The left has clearly shifted further left

2020-12-04 22:52:07 UTC

@TaLoN132 yeah he had but he still seems to attempt to have consistency of outrage

2020-12-04 22:52:10 UTC

Yeah, it doesn't just pivot one way or the other

2020-12-04 22:52:24 UTC

These people stayed where they are

2020-12-04 22:52:37 UTC

@Maw I believe he is a grifter that sees a goldmine of loyal trump fans looking for a home

2020-12-04 22:52:37 UTC

@james j You're literally describing being partisan.

2020-12-04 22:52:55 UTC

The current political spectrum goes beyond two dimensional...

2020-12-04 22:52:57 UTC

While claiming not to be @Maw

2020-12-04 22:53:19 UTC

He hasn't claimed to be unbiased, pretty sure. He's claimed that he's trying to be unbiased before.

2020-12-04 22:53:49 UTC

Hence, why he invites people of different opinions on his show

2020-12-04 22:54:02 UTC

@Adam135 well show where he goes after the right with the same intensity and force he goes after the left. Like in the example of media bias

2020-12-04 22:54:08 UTC

Something who "caters to a right-wing base" doesn't do that.

2020-12-04 22:54:25 UTC

He pretty well explains his "woke" experince though Greenwald does so more elegantly.

2020-12-04 22:54:35 UTC

@Adam135 thatโ€™s only recently . Have you seen his show over the past 4 years. Itโ€™s mainly people he agrees with.

2020-12-04 22:54:42 UTC

when some people were demanding that Trump declare martial law, he was very outspoken against it.

2020-12-04 22:54:45 UTC

And two or three people @Adam135

2020-12-04 22:55:04 UTC

@james j Most people refused to go onto the show with him. lol If you actually have watched his videos.

2020-12-04 22:55:12 UTC

Again after Trump lost the election @Adam135

2020-12-04 22:55:36 UTC

@Maw im sure people did not want to go

2020-12-04 22:55:41 UTC

Lots.

2020-12-04 22:55:43 UTC

Or, traditional liberals are now realizing the truth.

2020-12-04 22:55:53 UTC

You guys are blind

2020-12-04 22:56:09 UTC
2020-12-04 22:56:10 UTC

I'm pretty sure @james j is showing us what a grifter is by acting like one.

2020-12-04 22:56:17 UTC

Good one

2020-12-04 22:56:20 UTC

i.e a snake oil hustler

2020-12-04 22:56:24 UTC

Adam, chill with the personal attacks please.

2020-12-04 22:56:37 UTC

Maybe you guys will learn about slants and balanced outrage one day

2020-12-04 22:56:44 UTC

Until then enjoy being fooled

2020-12-04 22:56:53 UTC

@james j No, I call that being partisan.

2020-12-04 22:56:57 UTC

Both sides do it.

2020-12-04 22:57:06 UTC

I literally complain about it all the time.

2020-12-04 22:57:06 UTC

@Maw while claiming not to be

2020-12-04 22:57:19 UTC

Again for the thousandth time

2020-12-04 22:57:22 UTC

My granddad always used to say> "be careful with any man claiming the truth. He will try to sell you something before the crow has crashed."

2020-12-04 22:57:48 UTC

@james j You don't watch his videos, my dude.

2020-12-04 22:57:57 UTC

I personally seek out independent thinkers. It's what drew me to Robert's live stream. I have listened to a ton of Joe Rogan and there has been a shift (admittedly, I may have exaggerated with a couple of unnecessary ways). I don't blame him, I am pro capitalism, but the shows are way different. He is always accommodating to his guests and polite. He's a unique interviewer - gets people to say stuff a be themselves. I like it. I just noticed a shift over time. Ben Shapiro's cut from the same cloth as Tucker Carlson, in my opinion. They purely cater to their audiences.

2020-12-04 22:58:36 UTC

He even claims he has his bias but tries to be as unbiased as possible, and that everyone should look the things that he brings up for themselves, quite frequently might I add.

2020-12-04 22:58:51 UTC

Classical or traditional liberal ideals are center or just left of center right now... the left has gone left

2020-12-04 22:59:21 UTC

Some people are so blinded by their own views they are unable to see anything from other perspectives.

2020-12-04 22:59:26 UTC

@TaLoN132 So what you are saying is that in a free market, those speaking will largely be whores?

2020-12-04 22:59:33 UTC

Not to mention, a right-wing grifter wouldn't get along very well nor agree with Jimmy Dore

2020-12-04 22:59:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/784554586844954660/freemarket.jpg

2020-12-04 22:59:51 UTC

Is this a literal translation of a colloquialism, by chance? What is "crow has crashed"? (Forgive me, I am curious this way.)

2020-12-04 22:59:52 UTC

Who invited Tim on his show once, and they had a long thoughtful discussion

2020-12-04 22:59:58 UTC

I have he overemphasis positives on the right while down playing positives on the left while minimizing negatives on the right (for things he just spent a while show complaining about from the left) and over emphasizing positives on the right. Never steps on the toes of his base and boom you have a successful conservative show. All while claiming to be a unbiased leftist @Maw

2020-12-04 23:00:13 UTC

@TaLoN132 No, it is my grand-dads dementia.

2020-12-04 23:00:13 UTC

His audience is too dumb to tell

2020-12-04 23:00:15 UTC

The neoliberal class of what traditional liberals would essentially call "Republican"

2020-12-04 23:00:16 UTC

and aphasia

2020-12-04 23:00:24 UTC

@james j James, it's literally called being a partisan. lol

2020-12-04 23:00:34 UTC

@Beth why are you lurking lol

2020-12-04 23:01:07 UTC

He may literally believe he's center-left.

2020-12-04 23:01:15 UTC

He could very well be wrong.

2020-12-04 23:01:16 UTC

@Adam135 thatโ€™s not true at all. Jimmy dore actually still supports leftist policies but hates establishment democrats. He doesnโ€™t soothe the soft underbelly of conservatives all day

2020-12-04 23:01:21 UTC

gonna rest for a bit... bbl

2020-12-04 23:01:25 UTC

@Adam135 Beth is the debate version of the Morene eel.

2020-12-04 23:01:31 UTC

But you're claiming he doesn't hold these views if you claim he's a grifter.

2020-12-04 23:01:37 UTC

Just observing. Shhh donโ€™t drag me into this shit ๐Ÿ˜‚

2020-12-04 23:01:43 UTC

@Maw while claiming not to be hence the grift .

2020-12-04 23:01:53 UTC

wait for the right swimmer and with lightening speed nibble off a sizable chunck.

2020-12-04 23:01:56 UTC

Naw, that's not how it works.

2020-12-04 23:02:10 UTC

Grifting is the idea of you're swindling people or being a con-man.

2020-12-04 23:02:18 UTC

Would also mention that Trump is a lot more centrist and less traditional "Republican" now. I listen to a lot of Steve Bannon to try and understand what Trump is since he was essentially selected.

2020-12-04 23:02:28 UTC

By claiming you are something that you are not @Maw

2020-12-04 23:02:32 UTC

You are claiming to be something you believe you are actually not.

2020-12-04 23:02:39 UTC

There is a difference.

2020-12-04 23:02:50 UTC

@Doc I see... That's understandable. My dislike for not understanding things has been satiated. Much appreciated.

2020-12-04 23:03:01 UTC

Like...a gender? ๐Ÿ˜„

2020-12-04 23:03:08 UTC

Tim pool puts on a show like he is some centrist liberal and you guys just fall for it

2020-12-04 23:03:17 UTC

Pff.

2020-12-04 23:03:25 UTC

Bro.

2020-12-04 23:03:30 UTC

I don't even watch him much.

2020-12-04 23:03:41 UTC

To claim Tim is a grifter, you would need him to swear under oath that he only creates content for the sole purpose of getting donations from right-leaning people. He for years has emphasized how important it is to him to do work and provide commentary on things he believes in. That is the very opposite of a grifter.

2020-12-04 23:03:43 UTC

Only reason I defend him is because you literally attack him all the time.

2020-12-04 23:03:48 UTC

And attack his viewers.

2020-12-04 23:03:57 UTC

Of which quite a few enjoy this show.

2020-12-04 23:04:03 UTC

If a tomcat thinks he's a lynx but he's not, it doesn't make him a grifter. Delusional or misled, maybe?

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