so many women in leadership positions and I don't know how to interact with them properly

It's a social game I don't want to play, but I have to play to to some extent if I want to keep working

I've boycotted women in the West.

@Sigma Women bosses are happy if you are self reliant, cause they cant deal with leadership

they have to rely on schedules and working plans

I hate playing social games, you can't be yourself...You have to throw away your individuality and personality in order to conform to an institution you are forced to be a part of if you don't want to die on the streets

On the other end, if its not like they want, they turn into monsters

If you Are Going to have a DISCUSSION do it GENERAL OR IN VC @Mysteriedingens / @Sigma

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What do you mean? stay out of the drama and gossip?

You go to wrok to make money, that is it. Do your job, do it well and let that be it. When you are off work thenngo hang with the boys and shoot the shit

Big question. Do trannys hit the wall too? Some of us do see them being NAWALTs in a way, but do they also hit the wall, maybe sooner or later then women? Beyond them having a male brain and that some sacrificial love that we have for women and children, do they have adequate benefits, outside of reproduction?

Personal observations had shown me, Female to male trannys hit the male version of a wall

If they take estrogen, maybe they'll age faster...that would be my guess. Plus, long hair, fake tits, square jaw, big adam's apple won't look good after a while

@Sigma that factors depend on when your transition started

I don't know what effects estrogen has on the male physiology, I'm sure it screws some stuff up and it must be a miserable transition.

I haven't looked into it, I can only guess

I guess every transition is different.

This is an interefting topic, probably would have to find older trans women and do a study in a few year, since its relitivly new and all

Older trans kind of disappear, aye.

The fact that there seems to be a growing number on transitions between genders is somewhat new, so I guess time will tell and we'll see what happens in the future

I don't understand the female to male ones, though.

Take low T symptoms and add it to the symptoms of menopausal women taking estrogen

Should we take this to general chat?

Probably..

You know how social fads come and go? Do you guys think that the state in which society is in is just a phase we're in and that people will catch on, wake up, and things will get better?

Most likey. But that would require an extraordiany amount of mindset chsnge in the majority.

Believe in Generation Zyklon B.

For such a shift, a collapse may be the only option

Hockey mask time boys

The Purge

What are some of the most harsh truths you guys had to face?

The fact that I was a bitch and relied on others to validate my exsistence.

kek out of kek

The hardest truth in life i got yet was that it sometimes doesn't matter how much work you put into a person (especially woman) to make their lifes better, you wont get anything back if you face the same thing

When’s the next live stream

@A-B rebel not for a bit I have some vids i want to make first

One of my harshest truths is that if you're kind to everyone people see you as weak and treat you as such and don't take you seriously. People tend to treat you based on how they perceive you, plus you have to choose your battles wisely.

I have a question you guys

Why the hell did they put in anime babes on here?

@blackknight14 don't question it

Sorry, I was just curious. 😔

Anyone Who Doesn't like Hentai is Welcome to LEAVE.

@blackknight14 it's a great weapon against feminism. Also, it helps men to NOT return to the plantation

Thanks for clearing that up

@blackknight14 Or just mute the area like I did.

if you already had 2 daughters, would you still roll again to get a son?

the chances to get another girl statisticly speaking are 0.125 so 12.5%. If it still happens would you cry in your basement?

@Mysteriedingens yes, I would roll the dice again. Besides, I would try to found a son in law for the other two girls

Mgtow communitties are the best places to find a son in law 😈

take me master kazemaru<:tellmemore:480186120823373835>

My apprentice!!

Why cant we share YT links in General chat?

Where can I?

Can I post a meme

Ask for promition from the meme gods, @ZODD and @Andrew The Meme King

@A-B rebel

Does anybody of you have experience with the nootropic Phenibut?

I drink alcohol 1-2 a month roughly said and may want to replace that with taking phenibut. I know Alcohol and Phenibut both work as an NDMA-Antagonist and bind to GABA-Receptors. Phenibut though does not have the depressing side effects on the body alcohol has. Both can get you addicted. Phenibut is not tested in drug tests. Phenibut is not an official drug in most countries.

Does anybody know reason for ddjs pocket Thot for existing

I need answers

she wants a mgtow man, so she follows us around hoping one of us will dick her down...

That hoe looks old in the face

@Happy Humble Hermit I know you know the answer to that

Attention probably, from a group of men who don't easily offer a woman attention.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I only just found out about this mgtow branch. Is it like the opposite of feminism to you? And how do y'all define it? What does it mean to you?

MGTOW is not feminism, it's not about changing anything, it's living life without want for female validation etc.,

MGTOW to me means realizing how useless women are and that their validation is also useless. Were it not for sexual reproduction, society wouldn't realistically need women. It's about focusing yourself and being the best man you can be for yourself, not for women. It's also about not getting cheated by other women and even other men too. It's about self improvement and self actualization also.

Doesn't focusing on not getting female validation kind of defeat the purpose of not wanting it in the first place? Focusing on yourself makes absolute sense but it seems illogical to simultaneously spend time bashing women in your heads since your attention drifts back to them by thinking you are doing this to not be a slave to what women think of you. You're thereby obviously putting the female sex back in your thoughts which interferes with wanting to be "the best man you can be for yourself" (according to your definition). To me, this sounds suspiciously similar to women claiming to "put on make-up for themselves".
Just a variant on the other side. Is it not merely the same thing but in green?

Also, another thing I am curious about; you said society wouldn't really need women (other than for reproduction). So what is the determining factor that men are a necissity? Greater physical strength?

Intellect, think of what women have invented vs. what men have invented.

Also, people have lives, just because people spend time discussing stuff about women or the system, doesn't mean that's all they do.

I don't see how that interferes with anything.

@Artemis also, most of us cant really deny that we think about women sometimes. Its not so bad either. Just don't get pulled in with emotional manipulation. Im 21 i, my boner is pretty active in seeking women. I just conciously choose not to chase

I wasn't saying that it's all you do. How would I know? You seem to do it nevertheless. It just seemed a bit hypocritical to me since talking about it at all means that in some regard it must matter and is, at least for that period of time, your focus

But yea, Mysteriedingens (Deutsch?) clarifies it a little I guess

It doesn't get you female validation.

It's not that big of a priority in life anyways.

MGTOW is not about the assumption that women dont matter. Its just not worth it

Ya, Deutsch

Women don't matter to you is part of what it is.

What is not worth what?

Okay. Gotcha.

I mean not all of us are on a marriage strike or waiting to get back into a relationship if the system was okay.

@Artemis The juice is not worth the squeeze. The time, the resources, the effort, the emotional damage. The monogamous duties

doesnt change that i still think some girls look cute or some shit, its just in my nature and i try to embrace my natural instincs as i think its healthy to do so

That's a common thing anyway nowadays, isn't it? @ColdEmbraceOfDeath why is the term mgtow necessary?

I don't see how that is a common thing.

@Artemis in my surrounding nearly every guy seeks a relationship, i see it.

Take a country like mine, the marriage rates are up, birth rates are up, yet marriage as a thing isn't that great.

however please move the discussion to <#471844105463529472>

You stand to gain shit from a marriage in the current even in the absence of a system that backs women up, a woman's duties aren't the same the way it used to be in the past. Electricity and machines exist to do what women had to do manually.

Is it realistic to assume that since most people have their own self interest in mind that the chances are they are manipulating you into catering to their own needs over yours almost all the time during interactions?

And people generally expect you to sacrifice yourself in some way only to help them out, while they could care less about what you want?

You're not wrong to assume that, that's how most people are. Most human relationships aren't unconditional and are transactional after all, those what is involved is what differs a lot.

I ask this because I can never really know what the intentions of other people are. I've just lost trust in people in general based on what I've been learning and seeing.

A lot of this stuff can be work related and career related. You can't assume your bosses that you will have throughout your life actually care about you

It really isn't as simple as keeping your head down at work and working hard, especially if you want to do well. Everybody wants to do well, so that creates competition and I don't like competing at work

So I'm trying to figure out the career game, so I can at least have some sort of future. All I know is that playing the game requires serious involvement in the politics at work and being creative/clever/and sometimes ruthless.

Bosses don't care about you, you are at best a number on a file, they just want work from you.