Message from @pandabear.ic
Discord ID: 508042700595920906
Not saying they are right. They are very wrong.
I thought they were original socialist, they morphed into fascism.
But then again, people thought communism works - so, hey.
considering how they dealt with economic inequality, they weren't fascist at all
they were pure socialists
Nazi stands for national socialists, Nazism is a form fascism, with Mussolini being the one to come up with the term fascism, which comes from the italian word for a bundle of rods.
Mussolini didn't come up with fascism
I see.
it WAS the italians though who did
Fascism is socialist.
doesn't have to be actually
Well I do only use bundle of rods analog for corporation.
A form of socialism
But not for a society.
Yeah, it has roots as a counter-Enlightenment movement with the Jacobins in the 19th century, but I would argue Mussolini was the one who really characterized the ideology.
Is it the case that the ideology that we now call fascism was given that name after it was already in use? Or are the Italians the first to use it?
Fascism is just that you have a body of the state that can instantly gain absolute authority over life and death of everything in the state.
The moment a crisis is declared
i guess the accidental anal didnt happen
lmao
Quick question... me talking about bundle of sticks or rods for cooperation towards a common goal a good analog?
Not as society standpoint... but as a community standpoint.
Small group working together towards common goal.
That is the common depiction of fascism, yes.
I think the term socialism has been watered down too much.
I am using water term of it...
We should go by what people like Hayek mean tby it.
Thank people like Bernie Sanders for muddling it.
a bundle of sticks is called a faggot
@Undead Mockingbird "Everything given by government is socialism."
So Socialism -> Fascism -> Nazism ?
@Dvir who is that in your pfp?
They didn't mean democratic socialism like in Sweden, but Hayek did call it a "slower version to authoritarianism".
me
@Exembly they are all collective ideologies
Sweden isn't democratic socialism
Road to Serfdom, chapter 3-4
Friedrich Hayek