nazism does, but Facism can survive without it

Those are all free. All of them are old enough that you can get free copies of them.

@Undead Mockingbird What? Heinlein was libertarian

Fascism isn't really wasn't started by Nazis.

Just Nazis just happen to be facsists.

oh which btw, happy belated Samhain everyone

Nazi's were socialists

Yes, but many interpreted his militarism as fascism.

Was it in Italia that it started?

Not saying they are right. They are very wrong.

I thought they were original socialist, they morphed into fascism.

But then again, people thought communism works - so, hey.

considering how they dealt with economic inequality, they weren't fascist at all

they were pure socialists

Nazi stands for national socialists, Nazism is a form fascism, with Mussolini being the one to come up with the term fascism, which comes from the italian word for a bundle of rods.

Mussolini didn't come up with fascism

I see.

it WAS the italians though who did

Fascism is socialist.

doesn't have to be actually

Well I do only use bundle of rods analog for corporation.

A form of socialism

But not for a society.

Yeah, it has roots as a counter-Enlightenment movement with the Jacobins in the 19th century, but I would argue Mussolini was the one who really characterized the ideology.

Is it the case that the ideology that we now call fascism was given that name after it was already in use? Or are the Italians the first to use it?

Fascism is just that you have a body of the state that can instantly gain absolute authority over life and death of everything in the state.

The moment a crisis is declared

i guess the accidental anal didnt happen

wrong chat

lmao

Quick question... me talking about bundle of sticks or rods for cooperation towards a common goal a good analog?

Not as society standpoint... but as a community standpoint.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

Small group working together towards common goal.

That is the common depiction of fascism, yes.

I think the term socialism has been watered down too much.

I am using water term of it...

We should go by what people like Hayek mean tby it.

Thank people like Bernie Sanders for muddling it.

a bundle of sticks is called a faggot