Message from @Redneo
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Not unconditionaly and all across the US which is the only thing they could argue women couldnt.
Today being an equalitarian means that you are an ALT-RIGHT hate filled everything-phobic NAZI!
I am big enough to jump on top of someone and pummell them with my fists
you just made tim wet with rumors of antifa violence @acarson
Just like the kid from A Christmas Story did to one of the bullies
tirade against feminism aside, which I'd like to see sources for before making any opinion on, saying that shapiro is going to further any power shift towards women is speculative at best, and highly unlikely
unless you consider support of marriage and equal liability under the law to be woman-empowering
Support of marriage most definatly is
Also
Oh wow Pewdiepie covering Jake Paul and Ricegum's scam site
unwilling fathers currently are forced by the state to slave away for deadbeat mothers when this is exclusivly her choice to begin with
you say that as if mothers can spontaneously generate children on their own
He can use condoms, yeah, they are about as reliable as pulling out (citations for that and the other stuff comming right up), she can use the pill, far more reliable, then she can abort, then she can give it up for adoption or as ave haven. There is no single mother other than through her choice.
perhaps, but there is also not an unwilling father except through his choices
He makes a fair point. If a woman is allowed to have an abortion without the consent of the father, that is admission that the child is her responsibility, not his.
that logic I could follow, but I think abortion is bad anyway
well no he doesnt neccessarily consent to being a father nor can he ever give that up, she can.
he could not have sex
Only if he isnt raped. But consent to sex is not consent to parenthood
yes it is, you're consenting to doing the act that creates life, and if you're not willing to accept that risk, don't do it
in no othersituation do we hold anyone accountable for something other than direct consequences. For example
if i am tasked to transport equipment and break it, i can be made to pay that damage, not any lost revenue resulting from it
so at most you could demand a father pay half an abortion, really
you have to keep in mind I'm against abortion in the first place because that's destruction of a human life, so that colors my opinion
You arent neccessarily consenting to it. Rape happens. And by the data we have it seems men are about if not more commonly the victim of a female rapist than vice versa
yes, rape happens, and that's different
but consensual sex should not be thought of as completely removed from creating children
that is biologically incorrect
Well currently men which were ELEVEN years old when having been raped are forced to pay childsupport
that is wrong
(not the statistic)
they shouldn't be, and the rapist should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which is what shapiro is pushing for
Well i for one have no interest in having sex which is also why i can tell you... well, sex i snt that closely tied to children anymore. I dont want to have sex with a woman i may still become a father
Indeed, eggcells have been created from bloodcells. Could even have 2 biologicly male biological parents
I'm not arguing that it's the only method for having children, or even that the reason to have sex should be to have children, but that having children is an associated consequence that may occur
and it can't be ignored
How do you feel then about cases where the father wants custody? If thats denied would he still be forced to pay if it went after you?
if the father wants custody, it depends, if they both want custody, they can either have joint, or neither gets it, they should have equal opportunity to support the raising of their child
I’m thinking of rewriting The Great Gatsby but posting the title as “Plight of the Damned” and putting it up in Paris
Only change the characters and some Keywords
Would be real interesting to see how single fathers do compared to couples