Message from @Redneo

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2019-01-03 18:21:27 UTC  

well no he doesnt neccessarily consent to being a father nor can he ever give that up, she can.

2019-01-03 18:21:40 UTC  

he could not have sex

2019-01-03 18:21:58 UTC  

Only if he isnt raped. But consent to sex is not consent to parenthood

2019-01-03 18:22:19 UTC  

yes it is, you're consenting to doing the act that creates life, and if you're not willing to accept that risk, don't do it

2019-01-03 18:22:26 UTC  

in no othersituation do we hold anyone accountable for something other than direct consequences. For example

2019-01-03 18:22:48 UTC  

if i am tasked to transport equipment and break it, i can be made to pay that damage, not any lost revenue resulting from it

2019-01-03 18:22:58 UTC  

so at most you could demand a father pay half an abortion, really

2019-01-03 18:23:41 UTC  

you have to keep in mind I'm against abortion in the first place because that's destruction of a human life, so that colors my opinion

2019-01-03 18:24:03 UTC  

You arent neccessarily consenting to it. Rape happens. And by the data we have it seems men are about if not more commonly the victim of a female rapist than vice versa

2019-01-03 18:24:16 UTC  

yes, rape happens, and that's different

2019-01-03 18:24:34 UTC  

but consensual sex should not be thought of as completely removed from creating children

2019-01-03 18:24:38 UTC  

that is biologically incorrect

2019-01-03 18:24:43 UTC  

Well currently men which were ELEVEN years old when having been raped are forced to pay childsupport

2019-01-03 18:24:49 UTC  

that is wrong

2019-01-03 18:25:09 UTC  

(not the statistic)

2019-01-03 18:25:56 UTC  

they shouldn't be, and the rapist should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which is what shapiro is pushing for

2019-01-03 18:26:10 UTC  

Well i for one have no interest in having sex which is also why i can tell you... well, sex i snt that closely tied to children anymore. I dont want to have sex with a woman i may still become a father

2019-01-03 18:26:47 UTC  

Indeed, eggcells have been created from bloodcells. Could even have 2 biologicly male biological parents

2019-01-03 18:27:39 UTC  

I'm not arguing that it's the only method for having children, or even that the reason to have sex should be to have children, but that having children is an associated consequence that may occur

2019-01-03 18:27:49 UTC  

and it can't be ignored

2019-01-03 18:28:06 UTC  

How do you feel then about cases where the father wants custody? If thats denied would he still be forced to pay if it went after you?

2019-01-03 18:28:44 UTC  

if the father wants custody, it depends, if they both want custody, they can either have joint, or neither gets it, they should have equal opportunity to support the raising of their child

2019-01-03 18:28:49 UTC  

I’m thinking of rewriting The Great Gatsby but posting the title as “Plight of the Damned” and putting it up in Paris

2019-01-03 18:29:18 UTC  

Only change the characters and some Keywords

2019-01-03 18:29:25 UTC  

Would be real interesting to see how single fathers do compared to couples

2019-01-03 18:29:31 UTC  

Same gay shit, same jobs, and same interactions

2019-01-03 18:29:39 UTC  

probably terribly, just like single mothers

2019-01-03 18:29:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/530452701469868057/Screenshot_2019-01-03-13-08-31.png

2019-01-03 18:29:50 UTC  

I noticed that in some new detergent ads the dad is at home

2019-01-03 18:29:59 UTC  

But I have to wonder if he’s actually married

2019-01-03 18:30:00 UTC  

im sure theyll do better than single mothers. Currently rare case but ive heard men say that it got a lot easier once the mother was out of the picture...

2019-01-03 18:30:05 UTC  

Of course

2019-01-03 18:30:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/530452833649295360/IMG_20190103_125633.jpg

2019-01-03 18:30:11 UTC  

Top 100 answers on the board says

2019-01-03 18:30:13 UTC  

the cases in which a man gets custody are

2019-01-03 18:30:13 UTC  

No

2019-01-03 18:30:16 UTC  

Ugandan Chungus

2019-01-03 18:30:20 UTC  

currently uncommon cases

2019-01-03 18:30:29 UTC  

“That’ll hold em allwight.”

2019-01-03 18:31:16 UTC  

having two parents working together is generally the best solution, but while I think single fathers and single mothers will have differences in how they raise children, I can say from experience with my parents that neither single parent will be optimal for raising a child

2019-01-03 18:32:23 UTC  

whether one or the other is better is impossible to say on a broad scale due to sample size at the moment, but compared to a two parent household, I'm relatively confident that the difference is negligable