Message from @garbage he-man
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men have been shit on for thousands of years
yes you can
in the 1800s, men were convicted for crimes of their wives
and you didnt have the choice not to marry, either
you're cherry picking, but you can also objectively define it
youd have to pay bachelor taxes and at times were excluded from many jobs
@GoldenPhoenix and does he even oppose feminism? The first wave or the terrorists from the suffragettes?
does he use the typical wartime rethoric against men from other places such as arabs?
He supports equality feminism, which long ago reached its goals in the west, and fights against the modern branch that seeks to *reverse* perceived (whether true or not) historical oppression instead of balancing it out
feminism never strived for equality
I guess I'm referring to people like Christina Hoff Sommers
nor has any form of feminism ever intentionaly brought anything closer to equality.
Feminism is an advocacy movement, plane and simple
Well, there never was a time at which men could and women couldnt vote to begin with, thats the first lie
neither in the US nor in the UK. Unless you count feudalism back when only knights had any vote at all
That gathering is a possibility, so it's still good to stay informed and wary
In the UK, it was the same requirements for a woman to vote as for a man and in the US it was not federally regulated - though american men still cant vote
Not unconditionaly and all across the US which is the only thing they could argue women couldnt.
Today being an equalitarian means that you are an ALT-RIGHT hate filled everything-phobic NAZI!
I am big enough to jump on top of someone and pummell them with my fists
Just like the kid from A Christmas Story did to one of the bullies
tirade against feminism aside, which I'd like to see sources for before making any opinion on, saying that shapiro is going to further any power shift towards women is speculative at best, and highly unlikely
unless you consider support of marriage and equal liability under the law to be woman-empowering
Support of marriage most definatly is
Also
Oh wow Pewdiepie covering Jake Paul and Ricegum's scam site
unwilling fathers currently are forced by the state to slave away for deadbeat mothers when this is exclusivly her choice to begin with
you say that as if mothers can spontaneously generate children on their own
He can use condoms, yeah, they are about as reliable as pulling out (citations for that and the other stuff comming right up), she can use the pill, far more reliable, then she can abort, then she can give it up for adoption or as ave haven. There is no single mother other than through her choice.
perhaps, but there is also not an unwilling father except through his choices
He makes a fair point. If a woman is allowed to have an abortion without the consent of the father, that is admission that the child is her responsibility, not his.
that logic I could follow, but I think abortion is bad anyway
well no he doesnt neccessarily consent to being a father nor can he ever give that up, she can.
he could not have sex
Only if he isnt raped. But consent to sex is not consent to parenthood
yes it is, you're consenting to doing the act that creates life, and if you're not willing to accept that risk, don't do it
in no othersituation do we hold anyone accountable for something other than direct consequences. For example
if i am tasked to transport equipment and break it, i can be made to pay that damage, not any lost revenue resulting from it
so at most you could demand a father pay half an abortion, really
you have to keep in mind I'm against abortion in the first place because that's destruction of a human life, so that colors my opinion