Message from @Redneo

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2019-01-03 18:12:10 UTC  

Well, there never was a time at which men could and women couldnt vote to begin with, thats the first lie

2019-01-03 18:12:31 UTC  

neither in the US nor in the UK. Unless you count feudalism back when only knights had any vote at all

2019-01-03 18:12:50 UTC  

That gathering is a possibility, so it's still good to stay informed and wary

2019-01-03 18:14:04 UTC  

In the UK, it was the same requirements for a woman to vote as for a man and in the US it was not federally regulated - though american men still cant vote

2019-01-03 18:14:32 UTC  

Not unconditionaly and all across the US which is the only thing they could argue women couldnt.

2019-01-03 18:14:35 UTC  

Today being an equalitarian means that you are an ALT-RIGHT hate filled everything-phobic NAZI!

2019-01-03 18:14:42 UTC  

I am big enough to jump on top of someone and pummell them with my fists

2019-01-03 18:15:29 UTC  

you just made tim wet with rumors of antifa violence @acarson

2019-01-03 18:16:28 UTC  

Just like the kid from A Christmas Story did to one of the bullies

2019-01-03 18:16:43 UTC  

tirade against feminism aside, which I'd like to see sources for before making any opinion on, saying that shapiro is going to further any power shift towards women is speculative at best, and highly unlikely

2019-01-03 18:17:40 UTC  

unless you consider support of marriage and equal liability under the law to be woman-empowering

2019-01-03 18:17:50 UTC  

Support of marriage most definatly is

2019-01-03 18:17:52 UTC  

Also

2019-01-03 18:17:53 UTC  

Oh wow Pewdiepie covering Jake Paul and Ricegum's scam site

2019-01-03 18:18:34 UTC  

unwilling fathers currently are forced by the state to slave away for deadbeat mothers when this is exclusivly her choice to begin with

2019-01-03 18:19:08 UTC  

you say that as if mothers can spontaneously generate children on their own

2019-01-03 18:19:34 UTC  

He can use condoms, yeah, they are about as reliable as pulling out (citations for that and the other stuff comming right up), she can use the pill, far more reliable, then she can abort, then she can give it up for adoption or as ave haven. There is no single mother other than through her choice.

2019-01-03 18:20:10 UTC  

perhaps, but there is also not an unwilling father except through his choices

2019-01-03 18:20:33 UTC  

He makes a fair point. If a woman is allowed to have an abortion without the consent of the father, that is admission that the child is her responsibility, not his.

2019-01-03 18:20:55 UTC  

that logic I could follow, but I think abortion is bad anyway

2019-01-03 18:21:27 UTC  

well no he doesnt neccessarily consent to being a father nor can he ever give that up, she can.

2019-01-03 18:21:40 UTC  

he could not have sex

2019-01-03 18:21:58 UTC  

Only if he isnt raped. But consent to sex is not consent to parenthood

2019-01-03 18:22:19 UTC  

yes it is, you're consenting to doing the act that creates life, and if you're not willing to accept that risk, don't do it

2019-01-03 18:22:26 UTC  

in no othersituation do we hold anyone accountable for something other than direct consequences. For example

2019-01-03 18:22:48 UTC  

if i am tasked to transport equipment and break it, i can be made to pay that damage, not any lost revenue resulting from it

2019-01-03 18:22:58 UTC  

so at most you could demand a father pay half an abortion, really

2019-01-03 18:23:41 UTC  

you have to keep in mind I'm against abortion in the first place because that's destruction of a human life, so that colors my opinion

2019-01-03 18:24:03 UTC  

You arent neccessarily consenting to it. Rape happens. And by the data we have it seems men are about if not more commonly the victim of a female rapist than vice versa

2019-01-03 18:24:16 UTC  

yes, rape happens, and that's different

2019-01-03 18:24:34 UTC  

but consensual sex should not be thought of as completely removed from creating children

2019-01-03 18:24:38 UTC  

that is biologically incorrect

2019-01-03 18:24:43 UTC  

Well currently men which were ELEVEN years old when having been raped are forced to pay childsupport

2019-01-03 18:24:49 UTC  

that is wrong

2019-01-03 18:25:09 UTC  

(not the statistic)

2019-01-03 18:25:56 UTC  

they shouldn't be, and the rapist should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which is what shapiro is pushing for

2019-01-03 18:26:10 UTC  

Well i for one have no interest in having sex which is also why i can tell you... well, sex i snt that closely tied to children anymore. I dont want to have sex with a woman i may still become a father

2019-01-03 18:26:47 UTC  

Indeed, eggcells have been created from bloodcells. Could even have 2 biologicly male biological parents

2019-01-03 18:27:39 UTC  

I'm not arguing that it's the only method for having children, or even that the reason to have sex should be to have children, but that having children is an associated consequence that may occur

2019-01-03 18:27:49 UTC  

and it can't be ignored

2019-01-03 18:28:06 UTC  

How do you feel then about cases where the father wants custody? If thats denied would he still be forced to pay if it went after you?