Message from @Gothik Extravaganza
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I admit that I might have to chill in purgatory for a little
you think because some nine year old insults the Spirit once, he won't be saved?
But I'll get there eventually
YES
That is what the eternal sin is
how do you even believe in God if you think that He operates on this lvel
are you catholic?
since you believe in purgatory
No high church Anglican
not a single major protestant branch defines blasphemy against the Spirit the way you do
It's not protestant doe
the Spirit is Truth, and blasphemy against the Spirit is resisting the Truth
It's just english Catholicism
cut out the semantics, anglicansim doesn't do it that way either
Nah
blasphemy against the Spirit is the belief that you cannot be saved
Brb
The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that, while no sin absolutely "unforgivable", some sins represent a deliberate refusal to repent and accept the infinite mercy of God; a person committing such a sin refuses God's forgiveness, which can lead to condemnation to hell.
Can you elaborate on "insult" though?
The story of Odin sucking dick is a false story forged by a (((faggot))) who claimed Jesus had sex with his apostles when no one was watching.
There is no story in any credible literature that suggest Odin sucking dick.
@Monty great name & movie BTW. My name is also based in Monty Python lore.
My name is not based on monty python but the pfp is
Fair enough
I mean to go back on what I missed, ofc insulting god isn't the best idea
But if you're indifferent you can be forgotten
Forgotten however isn't the same as accepted, in the sense that only those who do good works are accepted
@moira justify morality without a higher unconditionally non dependent being which dictates and conveys to us what is moral, and what laws we ought to conduct our lives around
he can't. he argues some sort of animal morality, where the survival of your own species is the ultimate end-goal. he cannot argue why we should have this as our end goal
@moira Here ill present you my contention with an atheistic moral compass, you're free to respond
In a subjectivist morality, each moral compass is true insofar as the axioms of such moral compass are accepted. (i.e murder is wrong insofar as you accept some variant of utilitarianism) Now, axioms are by definition, arbitrary. Axioms, are also, the foundation of moral compasses in subjectivism, therefore, the whole moral compass is arbitrary as the foundation is arbitrary.
If you accept this, and simply say "So what", I could justify murder by merely adopting a different moral axiom which allows for murder and the destruction of the living etc
Everyone can justify every action by simply adopting a seperate axiom which allows for that action
1 Peter 2:17
> Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
Honestly I've just been trying to purge the supposed ability to synthesize classical liberalism with Christianity on some servers
Anarchist "Christians" need to be corrected, especially anarchist Catholics, which I thought I'd never meet.
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@Sentient23 Religion dictates morality as much as atheism dictates morality. You can justify murder through religious figures, just like the numerous people who have been killed over Israel and Palestine. Let’s not forget the Nazis were also Christians spreading their message of anti Jew behavior. Let’s not forget that the KKK is a Christian based group. And let us not forget that ISIS kills for religious morals. To say that morals cant exist without religion is like saying you can’t be a good person without paying indulgence. Humanists believe in doing good without divine intervention. I don’t need a god to tell me what is right and wrong. Not all atheists are nilihsts, and not all religious peoples are killers. Be good for the sake of being good. Don’t let a divine figure tell you why you can’t do something bad. there can be a discussion on the role of religion has on society, but it is a society as a whole that dictates the rules, society not religion typically dictate morals. The absence of religion is not the absence of morality. insofar we are all human. I find peace in knowing I can dictate my own reality. What comes after death isn’t “nothing” it just isn’t a god.
yikes, im at a bus rn and this literally didnt address anything I said, but thats to be expected from a teenage atheist, ill respond when i get off
they were a very secularist movement and the upper cabinet were usually into indo european occultism
i know im kind of pushing myself into this argument but nobody is telling you that if youre an atheist youre a bloodthirsty killer