Message from @Monty

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2020-02-04 19:35:21 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-04 19:35:24 UTC  

no

2020-02-04 19:35:27 UTC  

Jesus said so himself

2020-02-04 19:35:31 UTC  

that's not what blasphemy against the holy spirit means

2020-02-04 19:35:34 UTC  

i've read the gospels

2020-02-04 19:35:47 UTC  

Boy are you guys in for a surprise once you die

2020-02-04 19:36:00 UTC  

in fact you're the one going to hell for that lol

2020-02-04 19:36:09 UTC  

if we're gonna be doofuses

2020-02-04 19:36:37 UTC  

I admit that I might have to chill in purgatory for a little

2020-02-04 19:36:42 UTC  

you think because some nine year old insults the Spirit once, he won't be saved?

2020-02-04 19:36:45 UTC  

But I'll get there eventually

2020-02-04 19:36:49 UTC  

YES

2020-02-04 19:37:00 UTC  

That is what the eternal sin is

2020-02-04 19:37:02 UTC  

how do you even believe in God if you think that He operates on this lvel

2020-02-04 19:37:06 UTC  

are you catholic?

2020-02-04 19:37:12 UTC  

since you believe in purgatory

2020-02-04 19:37:23 UTC  

No high church Anglican

2020-02-04 19:38:00 UTC  

not a single major protestant branch defines blasphemy against the Spirit the way you do

2020-02-04 19:38:18 UTC  

It's not protestant doe

2020-02-04 19:38:23 UTC  

the Spirit is Truth, and blasphemy against the Spirit is resisting the Truth

2020-02-04 19:38:30 UTC  

It's just english Catholicism

2020-02-04 19:38:32 UTC  

cut out the semantics, anglicansim doesn't do it that way either

2020-02-04 19:38:46 UTC  

Nah

2020-02-04 19:38:47 UTC  

blasphemy against the Spirit is the belief that you cannot be saved

2020-02-04 19:38:48 UTC  

Brb

2020-02-04 19:44:01 UTC  

The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that, while no sin absolutely "unforgivable", some sins represent a deliberate refusal to repent and accept the infinite mercy of God; a person committing such a sin refuses God's forgiveness, which can lead to condemnation to hell.

2020-02-04 19:52:56 UTC  

Can you elaborate on "insult" though?

2020-02-04 19:59:45 UTC  

The story of Odin sucking dick is a false story forged by a (((faggot))) who claimed Jesus had sex with his apostles when no one was watching.
There is no story in any credible literature that suggest Odin sucking dick.

2020-02-04 20:04:49 UTC  

Hold the phone.

2020-02-04 20:09:12 UTC  

@Monty great name & movie BTW. My name is also based in Monty Python lore.

2020-02-04 20:15:14 UTC  

My name is not based on monty python but the pfp is

2020-02-04 20:18:15 UTC  

Fair enough

2020-02-04 20:46:00 UTC  

I mean to go back on what I missed, ofc insulting god isn't the best idea

2020-02-04 20:46:10 UTC  

But if you're indifferent you can be forgotten

2020-02-04 20:46:51 UTC  

Forgotten however isn't the same as accepted, in the sense that only those who do good works are accepted

2020-02-04 22:32:03 UTC  

@moira justify morality without a higher unconditionally non dependent being which dictates and conveys to us what is moral, and what laws we ought to conduct our lives around

2020-02-04 22:37:27 UTC  

he can't. he argues some sort of animal morality, where the survival of your own species is the ultimate end-goal. he cannot argue why we should have this as our end goal

2020-02-04 22:49:47 UTC  

@moira Here ill present you my contention with an atheistic moral compass, you're free to respond
In a subjectivist morality, each moral compass is true insofar as the axioms of such moral compass are accepted. (i.e murder is wrong insofar as you accept some variant of utilitarianism) Now, axioms are by definition, arbitrary. Axioms, are also, the foundation of moral compasses in subjectivism, therefore, the whole moral compass is arbitrary as the foundation is arbitrary.

If you accept this, and simply say "So what", I could justify murder by merely adopting a different moral axiom which allows for murder and the destruction of the living etc
Everyone can justify every action by simply adopting a seperate axiom which allows for that action

2020-02-05 02:02:39 UTC  

1 Peter 2:17
> Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

2020-02-05 02:03:39 UTC  

Honestly I've just been trying to purge the supposed ability to synthesize classical liberalism with Christianity on some servers