hey

that's a particularly unchristian worldview

https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/1224134819342237696?s=19

this isn't fundamentalism

Christian fundamentalism is the opposite of violence

@☭ SovietsDidNothingWrong Ⓐ was Jesus a pacifist?

lol

whoever lives by the sword shall perish by the sword

nice taking verses out of context

when is violence necessary?

war is necessary?

how

"your land"

lol, no

when God orders war war is justified

expansionist wars are never justified

that is a justification for war

most wars weren't fought for that purpose

and 90% of the time you can drive off an invader with many other methods

besides war

sure, when God speaks to you and tells you to go to war again i'll be in the front lines

until then i'm not a warmongerer

and even if we come to war, war isn't a good

war can be used as say, an evil for the prevention of greater evils

but it's never in itself a good thing

unless of course God commands it

examples from the old testament are arguably futile; because the "chosen people" status is lost

no nation has priveleges over another nation

lol

I've read the Bible

at least the gosples i have

yes He has

why does He then command us to turn the other cheek? all of the verses that you cite about the usage of the "sword" are very metaphoric and could be interpreted differently

high iq response

i've always taken sword in "i've come to bring a sword" as meaning justice

Christ is bringing justice to the world, and Christians are fighting every day, though battles not physical but spiritual

are you a non-denominational.

okay then, opinion disregarded

sorry but take at least a bit of time to examine Christian denominations. I'm sure the apostolic churches have more of a grasp of Christology than you do

@Maksim

can we have an art channel separate from <#619541868463521803> ?

so if you have, say, a sodomite, who is engaging in an objective act of evil, do you see violence against them as the first and intrinsically corect decision?

lol

americans legitimately think that they're more "woke" than europe

europe is very atheistic yet it's still a more pleasant and calm environment than urban america

new york city is literally the den of Satan

i'm not thinking highly of europe, i think very low of it

maybe you could say i think too lowly of america

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozzrtar_F0w

hahahah that's rich

are you muslim?

oh boy

where are you from

serbia

been here my whole life

yes

i could go on about it for days

in short it's an invented religion

muhammad was a false prophet

everything bad about it comes from that central issue

he was spreading a message of sinfulness and heresy

and of arrogance

>or not to have sex outside marrige?

thankfully muhammad allowed his soldiers to hire prostitutes during a very tiring siege

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%27ah

of course i would

but it isn't

aesthetic is kind of cringe bro..... and i mean like historical art and architecture, not edits

nobody is lying

it's dodging

and it's not?

you pay a woman so you marry her for a short time to have sex with her

does the ceremony negate the sin?

how is it not sin?

you married her just for your internal pleasures

that is Sin

this is something that islam doesn't understand, because of course it's a fabricated religion

Sin isn't an act

it's a state of mind

that's sometimes expressed through acts

one who has commited adultery in his mind has commited it in practice

just like muhammad when he married zaynab

the wife of his own adopted son

yes, muhammad abolished the practice

so he could marry the wife of his son

zaynab

it's all in the hadiths

if you're going to be really persuasive

i can look up the verses

then you'd know i'm not going off of theories

the most credible islamic historians write these down

there was adoption in the arab world before islam

muhammad abolished the act so he could marry his adoptive son's wife

zaynab

that's my claim

well yes

but could you counter the point we're currently talking about?

i believe muslims are monotheists

that doesn't make it less wrong

there are loads of "christian" denominations that are monotheistic but outright wrong