Message from @SGL
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Maybe... I only watched one of those doccies, didn't really entirely disagree with it, some things were implied, but it's a foreigners perspective, but yeah they are quite liberal with their narratives, i probably wouldn't be surprised if that's where the interest comes from.
Hectic, and so many people support this, because they disagree with him... And they have no idea what they support.
First they came for Alax Jones...
Hectic shit.. Where is this from?
Check out @EarnKnowledge’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/EarnKnowledge/status/1021842835543187456?s=09
Check out @Nature_and_Race’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Nature_and_Race/status/1029820320960659463?s=09
Reminds me of the time a car company said I wasn't using a vehicle correctly and I was the reason why it broke.
So they were right?
lol lets not get into any detail, you are on my side..
I like detail
To me detail is perfection
Lol
He was permanently suspended from life. But that wasn't enough for the censors of twitter...
let me guess, some fags found out account suspensions are automatic with reports and they're mass reporting people
Renaldo is die enigste ou wat dink hy is 'n "centrist".
@Daniel van Straaten @Rendier https://twitter.com/RenaldoGouws/status/1030006630430257152
Fair enough that they dont want to debate you, I personally detest so called echo chambers but surely you can understand their apprehension. If you promise to be fair and balanced and not use the classic 'muh racist, sexist, nazi' rhetoric then im sure they will give you an interview.
I was with him until he said "I am not left wing. I am centrist".
Liberals are the left.
Renaldo is not even 'Liberal' he's a social democrat and has long abandoned individualism in favor of a collectivist worldview. Hence why he believes in 'White Privilege'.
Suidlanders should have accepted if they said they will debate anyone.
We are so left Conservatives are left https://www.mises.org/library/intellectual-incoherence-conservatism
Remember, the terms "left" and "right," in their original context, when used during the Estates-General at the outset of the Revolution francaise, were determined by your position relative to the monarchy. If you completely opposed the monarchy in favor of a republic, you sat on the left (Jacobins); those who favored either a constitutional monarchy/moderate republic, sat in the middle/center-left (Girondins); those who supported the king, sat on the right (Royalistes). So, in a certain sense, the original "right-wing" were conservatives/traditionalists who favored the monarchy over a republic/democracy dominated by the masses! Hence, many "conservatives" are, historically speaking, actually left-wing and just don't realize it!
@MaximusXVI but does it apply when it doesn't revolve around a monarchy? It would be relevant we were under the influence of a monarchy, but now that we aren't, and there is no monarchy present for reference, would it matter, or even apply if the context is different?
@Sheamus of for sure! The context and even definition of terms definitely changes. I was just pointing out the historical context of the origins of the terms "left" and "right". I just think it's interesting that "right-wingers" today who support democracy or republicanism would be viewed as leftists or dare I even say liberals, in the original context of what definied "left" and "right" at the beginning of the French Revolution. The terms "left" and "right" today can include any number of things. I don't think there is a strict definition of right wing and left wing in the sense that, "if someone is right wing, they must believe this" or the same for the left. Do you think there are disqualifying factors for someone who identifies as right or left? For example, most people associate Richard Spencer with the far-right/alt-right whatever you want to call it; but he has some socialist-leaning positions such as universal healthcare? Does this, ipso facto, mean he's a leftist? I don't know, i think that's really open for discussion! 😃
@MaximusXVI well, as i understand left and right, left is government and right is freedom, therefore far left being dictatorship of a government controlled state, and far right being anarchy with no government. Right is more individual and left is more collective and tribal. That's the modern context as i understand it.
@Sheamus I agree 100% that those are the current contexts of "left" and "right". 👍
@MaximusXVI yeah so monarchy would be pretty far left in modern context i imagine.
@Sheamus haha! Well, in a modern context that defines left-right based on the amount of power government has, monarchy would be considered left wing. Although I think most people may still associate monarchy, even in a modern context, with the right because of the values that are often associated with monarchy, such as hierarchy, tradition, respect for authority that many right wingers also hold. If we applied modern political terms, for example, to the American Revolution, it was the conservative patriots fighting the liberal king. That sounds funny because I think we all know that, regardless of what one thinks of George III, he certainly was not a "liberal!" I think everyone who was involved in the American Revolution, would today be considered rightwing, to some degree. The king who represents discipline and tradition, and the patriots representing freedom and individual rights.