August '21 for their next parliamentary elections though so this will probably be forgotten by then

Merkel has pretty much cucked all the "want" out of the SPD. now they just bend over whenever Merkel needs them to. I voted for them when i was 18, for the first and last time

they dropped from like 35% to 17% in 15 years. And the sad part is: they dont know why. just like Labour

dont have exact numbers but its somewhere around those 2

They're centre left like Labour claim to be aren't they?

yes but they have a history of abandoning all their principles for those sweet sweet ministry positions

thats how Merkel cucked them

they were NOT the party to demand a minimum wage first in germany, that was actually the "Die Linke", a party founded by former SPD members who had enough of this bullshit

Who's likely to get their votes as they fall away? Is it likely that there won't be the possibility of a CRight-CLeft coalition in the next elections that would need Merkel/her successor to work with further right parties?

AfD and Greens

Greens are a much bigger force in Germany that the UK right?

Merkels party lost some votes too, but not as much

yes, in one of our largest state they actually run the government

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1229103146066235402

So there's a reasonable chance of CDU-Green government after the next elections or are they too different?

we already had a SPD-Green gov in 1998-2002

they invaded jugoslawia, those peaceful SJWs...

it was acutally a deal they made with Bill Clinton: he sent some of his campaigners over to germany to help get SPD-Green elected, in return, they helped him to invade jugoslawia

CDU-Green coalition is currently running Baden Württemberg, the state i mentioned

That doesn't sound good for Germany if they end up running the whole country

Greens have 47 seats, CDU has 43 out of 143 total

the green party leader of Baden Württemberg is actually more conservative than Merkel in most ways lol

which doesnt mean much, every single party in germany is pretty much center-left except for AfD and FDP (neo-libs)

So other than environmentally a CDU Green government may be better than what's currently there?

AfD is pretty much pre-Merkel CDU mixed in with some Nazis

lol that's so on point

> jugoslawia

@TheRandomist i m 33 y o and i havent actually witnessed a single "conservative" government in my country in my entire life. i honestly dont know. what i do know is that the SOCIAL DEMOCRATS lowered taxes for the rich (more than the cons did) and cut back massively on social security, unemployment benefits specifically

german politics is a clown world
conservative parties do leftist shit
leftist parties say "fuck the poor"
and neo-libs say "why doesnt everybody own a hotel is so EZ?"

needless to say i m politicly homeless...and every day i get more reasons to vote AfD...and i am center-left ffs

here is a funny thing that happend in Baden Württemberg recently:
the motion asked "should perfectly integrated refugees/migrants, who found a job, be deported?"
Voted YES: Greens (!), CDU and AfD
NO: SPD and FDP

@Propagandastyl3
Finnish politics is a clown world
conservative parties do leftist shit
leftist parties say "fuck the poor"
and neo-libs say "why doesnt everybody own a hotel is so EZ?"
needless to say i m politicly homeless...and every day i get more reasons to vote for the Finns party

Same shit different country

It's utterly baffling how almost every political party everywhere tries their very best to pander and bow as far left as possible

As a Swede I know just how you feel

ironic story: my cousin moved from cologne, germany to rural sweden to get away from all the cultural enrichment

Finnish politics sounds like general western politics

Most of which translates into "too rich to know that real people exist too"

Yes, this is especially true in big cities.

Helsinki is the worst when it comes to this

and its painfully evident when I see tourists from southern Finland come up north.

I guess it's the same shit in almost any western country