Message from @TheRandomist

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2020-02-16 17:43:37 UTC  

So the SPD want a single party state not a democracy @Propagandastyl3

2020-02-16 17:46:01 UTC  

I swear Germany is like Groundhog day

2020-02-16 17:46:02 UTC  

They want democracy, as long as they don't disagree with you too much

2020-02-16 17:46:32 UTC  

The SPD are going to have a nasty shock.

2020-02-16 17:47:19 UTC  

I don't think Germans want to live in East Germany all over again. @TheRandomist

2020-02-16 17:48:27 UTC  

No, hopefully there'll be a backlash against the SPD for this, and other parties will realise that this could be extended to them in future and condemn them for it, no matter where they are on the spectrum

2020-02-16 17:49:28 UTC  

August '21 for their next parliamentary elections though so this will probably be forgotten by then

2020-02-16 17:54:48 UTC  

Merkel has pretty much cucked all the "want" out of the SPD. now they just bend over whenever Merkel needs them to. I voted for them when i was 18, for the first and last time

2020-02-16 17:56:25 UTC  

they dropped from like 35% to 17% in 15 years. And the sad part is: they dont know why. just like Labour

2020-02-16 17:56:54 UTC  

dont have exact numbers but its somewhere around those 2

2020-02-16 17:57:16 UTC  

They're centre left like Labour claim to be aren't they?

2020-02-16 17:57:56 UTC  

yes but they have a history of abandoning all their principles for those sweet sweet ministry positions

2020-02-16 17:58:08 UTC  

thats how Merkel cucked them

2020-02-16 17:59:17 UTC  

they were NOT the party to demand a minimum wage first in germany, that was actually the "Die Linke", a party founded by former SPD members who had enough of this bullshit

2020-02-16 17:59:43 UTC  

Who's likely to get their votes as they fall away? Is it likely that there won't be the possibility of a CRight-CLeft coalition in the next elections that would need Merkel/her successor to work with further right parties?

2020-02-16 17:59:56 UTC  

AfD and Greens

2020-02-16 18:00:22 UTC  

Greens are a much bigger force in Germany that the UK right?

2020-02-16 18:00:29 UTC  

Merkels party lost some votes too, but not as much

2020-02-16 18:00:57 UTC  

yes, in one of our largest state they actually run the government

2020-02-16 18:01:50 UTC  

So there's a reasonable chance of CDU-Green government after the next elections or are they too different?

2020-02-16 18:02:13 UTC  

we already had a SPD-Green gov in 1998-2002

2020-02-16 18:02:50 UTC  

they invaded jugoslawia, those peaceful SJWs...

2020-02-16 18:03:41 UTC  

it was acutally a deal they made with Bill Clinton: he sent some of his campaigners over to germany to help get SPD-Green elected, in return, they helped him to invade jugoslawia

2020-02-16 18:05:50 UTC  

CDU-Green coalition is currently running Baden Württemberg, the state i mentioned

2020-02-16 18:06:28 UTC  

That doesn't sound good for Germany if they end up running the whole country

2020-02-16 18:06:29 UTC  

Greens have 47 seats, CDU has 43 out of 143 total

2020-02-16 18:07:02 UTC  

the green party leader of Baden Württemberg is actually more conservative than Merkel in most ways lol

2020-02-16 18:07:49 UTC  

which doesnt mean much, every single party in germany is pretty much center-left except for AfD and FDP (neo-libs)

2020-02-16 18:08:21 UTC  

So other than environmentally a CDU Green government may be better than what's currently there?

2020-02-16 18:08:30 UTC  

AfD is pretty much pre-Merkel CDU mixed in with some Nazis

2020-02-16 18:33:36 UTC  

lol that's so on point

2020-02-16 18:48:05 UTC  

> jugoslawia

2020-02-16 19:47:49 UTC  

@TheRandomist i m 33 y o and i havent actually witnessed a single "conservative" government in my country in my entire life. i honestly dont know. what i do know is that the SOCIAL DEMOCRATS lowered taxes for the rich (more than the cons did) and cut back massively on social security, unemployment benefits specifically

2020-02-16 19:49:22 UTC  

german politics is a clown world
conservative parties do leftist shit
leftist parties say "fuck the poor"
and neo-libs say "why doesnt everybody own a hotel is so EZ?"

2020-02-16 19:51:22 UTC  

needless to say i m politicly homeless...and every day i get more reasons to vote AfD...and i am center-left ffs

2020-02-17 08:51:44 UTC  

here is a funny thing that happend in Baden Württemberg recently:
the motion asked "should perfectly integrated refugees/migrants, who found a job, be deported?"
Voted YES: Greens (!), CDU and AfD
NO: SPD and FDP

2020-02-17 09:56:27 UTC  

@Propagandastyl3
Finnish politics is a clown world
conservative parties do leftist shit
leftist parties say "fuck the poor"
and neo-libs say "why doesnt everybody own a hotel is so EZ?"
needless to say i m politicly homeless...and every day i get more reasons to vote for the Finns party

Same shit different country

2020-02-17 09:58:20 UTC  

It's utterly baffling how almost every political party everywhere tries their very best to pander and bow as far left as possible

2020-02-17 10:17:03 UTC  

As a Swede I know just how you feel

2020-02-17 10:26:05 UTC  

ironic story: my cousin moved from cologne, germany to rural sweden to get away from all the cultural enrichment