Message from @Propagandastyl3

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2020-02-16 07:32:56 UTC  

i translated this article for Vee
might as well post it here
https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2020/spd-gesetze-duerfen-nicht-mit-afd-stimmen-zustande-kommen/
SPD: Bills must not pass with AfD-Votes

Düsseldorf The SPD in the Landtag [state parliament] of North Rhine-Westphalia has demanded a ban on bills, if those only get a majority of votes with help of the AfD. The SPD issued a corresponding Eilantrag ["express motion"] at the Düsseldorf Landtag on monday.

With this motion the Landtag is supposed to plead itself to "not allowing any teamwork or collaboration in any way, shape or form between democrats and the AfD in the Landtag of North Rhine-Westphalia, present and future". This includes, on the one hand, the election of the minister president [head of state gov]. On the other hand, "there must not be bills passed in this Landtag, that only got a majority of votes with help from the AfD."

"Quick and clear commitment"

Regarding the heated mood in country, there needs to be a quick and clear commitment of the Landtag, says the SPD in justification of the motion. "The AfD must not be a wildcard [thats how i translated a word literally meaning "power option"] for any democratic party and faction in North Rhine-Westphalia in any form. This is at the root of the democratic self-conception. [or self-image ?]

There will not be a vote on the motion during this weeks session. The president has, in consultation with the executive committee, not allowed any express motions for this week.", a speaker of the Landtag told the JUNGE FREIHEIT.

It is unclear how the demands of the SPD are compatible with the state constitution, which guarantees a free mandate to any house representative. The state constitution says, regarding this: "Representatives [members of the house] vote in accordance with their own free conviction, only taking the well of the people into consideration. They are not bound to orders."

The woke airline shit is made from woke ass ad campaign company &CO look em up this has happened before lmao

2020-02-16 10:13:55 UTC  

Surely that law couldn't be legal, imagine if the AfD for a majority in that region, would the parliament just not do anything until their next elections because they couldn't repeal it?

2020-02-16 10:15:19 UTC  

germany is literally going back to the weimar republic

2020-02-16 10:15:29 UTC  

voing ovr and over again until something passes

2020-02-16 10:15:30 UTC  

it doesn't actually make any sense, because you'd have to either remove the representative aspect of parliament or you'd have to allow members to change their vote based on who else voted

2020-02-16 10:55:59 UTC  

@TheRandomist no, it was dismissed immediatly. but the fact that they even tried is the real scandal in my book

2020-02-16 11:21:51 UTC  

Hopefully that story goes viral in Germany, it could help them get more votes than they otherwise would

2020-02-16 12:35:08 UTC  

quite the opposite

2020-02-16 12:35:29 UTC  

i dont watch tv so i dunno what the smear merchants over there talk about all day

2020-02-16 14:08:58 UTC  

I thought vee could read german

2020-02-16 14:16:34 UTC  

maybe
but i can do it better

2020-02-16 17:43:37 UTC  

So the SPD want a single party state not a democracy @Propagandastyl3

2020-02-16 17:46:01 UTC  

I swear Germany is like Groundhog day

2020-02-16 17:46:02 UTC  

They want democracy, as long as they don't disagree with you too much

2020-02-16 17:46:32 UTC  

The SPD are going to have a nasty shock.

2020-02-16 17:47:19 UTC  

I don't think Germans want to live in East Germany all over again. @TheRandomist

2020-02-16 17:48:27 UTC  

No, hopefully there'll be a backlash against the SPD for this, and other parties will realise that this could be extended to them in future and condemn them for it, no matter where they are on the spectrum

2020-02-16 17:49:28 UTC  

August '21 for their next parliamentary elections though so this will probably be forgotten by then

2020-02-16 17:54:48 UTC  

Merkel has pretty much cucked all the "want" out of the SPD. now they just bend over whenever Merkel needs them to. I voted for them when i was 18, for the first and last time

2020-02-16 17:56:25 UTC  

they dropped from like 35% to 17% in 15 years. And the sad part is: they dont know why. just like Labour

2020-02-16 17:56:54 UTC  

dont have exact numbers but its somewhere around those 2

2020-02-16 17:57:16 UTC  

They're centre left like Labour claim to be aren't they?

2020-02-16 17:57:56 UTC  

yes but they have a history of abandoning all their principles for those sweet sweet ministry positions

2020-02-16 17:58:08 UTC  

thats how Merkel cucked them

2020-02-16 17:59:17 UTC  

they were NOT the party to demand a minimum wage first in germany, that was actually the "Die Linke", a party founded by former SPD members who had enough of this bullshit

2020-02-16 17:59:43 UTC  

Who's likely to get their votes as they fall away? Is it likely that there won't be the possibility of a CRight-CLeft coalition in the next elections that would need Merkel/her successor to work with further right parties?

2020-02-16 17:59:56 UTC  

AfD and Greens

2020-02-16 18:00:22 UTC  

Greens are a much bigger force in Germany that the UK right?

2020-02-16 18:00:29 UTC  

Merkels party lost some votes too, but not as much

2020-02-16 18:00:57 UTC  

yes, in one of our largest state they actually run the government

2020-02-16 18:01:50 UTC  

So there's a reasonable chance of CDU-Green government after the next elections or are they too different?

2020-02-16 18:02:13 UTC  

we already had a SPD-Green gov in 1998-2002

2020-02-16 18:02:50 UTC  

they invaded jugoslawia, those peaceful SJWs...

2020-02-16 18:03:41 UTC  

it was acutally a deal they made with Bill Clinton: he sent some of his campaigners over to germany to help get SPD-Green elected, in return, they helped him to invade jugoslawia

2020-02-16 18:05:50 UTC  

CDU-Green coalition is currently running Baden Württemberg, the state i mentioned

2020-02-16 18:06:28 UTC  

That doesn't sound good for Germany if they end up running the whole country

2020-02-16 18:06:29 UTC  

Greens have 47 seats, CDU has 43 out of 143 total

2020-02-16 18:07:02 UTC  

the green party leader of Baden Württemberg is actually more conservative than Merkel in most ways lol