Message from @MawLr

Discord ID: 570391809914568704


2019-04-23 23:30:32 UTC  

Pretty sure those were rumors to discredit him

2019-04-23 23:30:46 UTC  

That I find hard to believe. He was definitely killed for political power

2019-04-23 23:30:52 UTC  

By Jewish bolsheviks

2019-04-23 23:30:59 UTC  

Yes, that is tangible

2019-04-23 23:31:02 UTC  

He was not killed for his faith, which is kind of the point of martyrdom

2019-04-23 23:31:11 UTC  

wasn't he at best just a bad ruler?

2019-04-23 23:31:15 UTC  

Yeah, I wouldn’t call him a martyr

2019-04-23 23:31:23 UTC  

Considering how well Rasputin was in good relations with many of the royal family I see no reason to find it implausible

2019-04-23 23:31:29 UTC  

He's a martyr in the orthodox church, just pointing that out

2019-04-23 23:31:31 UTC  

No no no, I'm saying I've never seen evidence of him being an occultist or adulterer. He was definitely murdered by kikes.

2019-04-23 23:31:38 UTC  

He was also a terrible ruler

2019-04-23 23:31:55 UTC  

His wife might've been the adulteress, in that case

2019-04-23 23:31:59 UTC  

I was agreeing with you Caedes. I knew what you meant

2019-04-23 23:32:30 UTC  

his wife seemed a bit whacky with all the rasputin stuff

2019-04-23 23:32:32 UTC  

And because Rasputin was in with some of the family doesn’t mean he was in with all of them

2019-04-23 23:32:42 UTC  

I should think anyway

2019-04-23 23:32:48 UTC  

Ctzarist Russia was in fact a terrible place to live in

2019-04-23 23:32:51 UTC  

Pretty sure it was other families that actually wanted Rasputin dead

2019-04-23 23:32:57 UTC  

The czarina being a degenerate would make sense. She was raised a German prot.

2019-04-23 23:33:12 UTC  

Yes but that's a strawman there, no one's talking about living conditions

2019-04-23 23:33:24 UTC  

And agreed there Caedes

2019-04-23 23:33:49 UTC  

A wife can't invite and keep an occultist at the court for years without implicit approval of her husband

2019-04-23 23:34:04 UTC  

Nick was a shy and distracted ruler

2019-04-23 23:34:09 UTC  

Pretty sure it can be done

2019-04-23 23:34:10 UTC  

Unless he hid it well?

2019-04-23 23:34:19 UTC  

By his own admission he didn't want the throne right?

2019-04-23 23:34:23 UTC  

Yeah

2019-04-23 23:34:40 UTC  

As for being a poor ruler, he was a simple man, not well suited to the intrigues of politics. Most of what went on during his reign was actually the work of the aristocrats.

2019-04-23 23:34:49 UTC  

His father was the good ruler, murdered, however

2019-04-23 23:34:53 UTC  

Forgive me for being difficult, but this is the first I’ve ever heard the claims of Nicholas being an adulterer and an occultist

2019-04-23 23:35:06 UTC  

same

2019-04-23 23:35:10 UTC  

Yes, it's mostly to discredit his simplicity

2019-04-23 23:35:20 UTC  

Allegedly he had an affair with a ballerina

2019-04-23 23:35:27 UTC  

But there's not really much backing that up

2019-04-23 23:35:38 UTC  

Ah ok

2019-04-23 23:35:43 UTC  

Hadn’t heard that one before

2019-04-23 23:36:05 UTC  

Albeit, I don’t know a whole lot about that particular time in Russia

2019-04-23 23:36:19 UTC  

My focuses have been more on Western Europe and Rome

2019-04-23 23:36:47 UTC  

Tsarist Russia was basically the same as Rome technologically

2019-04-23 23:36:55 UTC  

Wild claim

2019-04-23 23:36:58 UTC  

Maybe worse