I was agreeing with you Caedes. I knew what you meant

his wife seemed a bit whacky with all the rasputin stuff

And because Rasputin was in with some of the family doesn’t mean he was in with all of them

I should think anyway

Ctzarist Russia was in fact a terrible place to live in

Pretty sure it was other families that actually wanted Rasputin dead

The czarina being a degenerate would make sense. She was raised a German prot.

Yes but that's a strawman there, no one's talking about living conditions

And agreed there Caedes

A wife can't invite and keep an occultist at the court for years without implicit approval of her husband

Nick was a shy and distracted ruler

Pretty sure it can be done

Unless he hid it well?

By his own admission he didn't want the throne right?

Yeah

As for being a poor ruler, he was a simple man, not well suited to the intrigues of politics. Most of what went on during his reign was actually the work of the aristocrats.

His father was the good ruler, murdered, however

Forgive me for being difficult, but this is the first I’ve ever heard the claims of Nicholas being an adulterer and an occultist

same

Yes, it's mostly to discredit his simplicity

Allegedly he had an affair with a ballerina

But there's not really much backing that up

Ah ok

Hadn’t heard that one before

Albeit, I don’t know a whole lot about that particular time in Russia

My focuses have been more on Western Europe and Rome

Tsarist Russia was basically the same as Rome technologically

Wild claim

Maybe worse

Also the first I’ve heard of such a claim

Alexander II was industrialising the nation and reforming the old feudal system

Hahaha

However he was murdered

The III, my bad

Im just trying to make a point, the nation was (and by a large part still is) an absolute shithole

or was he not?

It is pretty much the backwater of Europe

German soldiers were taken aback, they thought they were fighting in the middle ages

hmm, i'm mistaking someone

Those who knew him well described him as a very pious man, and very nearly as devoted to his family. He apparently liked to spend as much time as he could with his children, and delegated much of his power to aristocrats who would lie to his face about the state of the empire. Many of those men had served under his father, so he trusted them.

That’s the more likely scenario