Message from @A. Spader
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well I mean it could. it just means that 'god' aka the first mover or contingency is very tiny
tbf arguing for God from the empirical realm won't work because faith is not about empiricism
yeah to be honest I think a better argument is to take God's existence for granted, and argue his character
And so tiny that it practically doesn't matter
If you're willing to modify god to mean anything that could be considered "the first" or an infinite, sure. But then you've said nothing
and without knowing his character makes it double pointless
since that is far more releveant to the actions of day to day lives
anyone even have a question? I don't, this is better left as a discussion and anything I ask will be out of scope
plus it'll just be leading the discussion later
this was cool
I rationalize god being real because the you can look in history and see that the events that happened in the Bible,actually happened
Your very existence is proof of God. God doesn’t have to be this bearded man in the sky. He is a higher being than all of us.
All the unknown will remain a mystery forever because we simply cannot fathom such things. We are lesser beings than God so we can’t try to describe Him.
same. I just feel like Pius is arguing a very pendantic point and I am not read up on the minusca of metaphysics
@Myth
For Pius,
where is the bridge between the philisophical concept of God you've argued for and any ability to know his character?
I would never try to rationalize God or his character because 1) its futile 2) it won't help man actually incorporate faith
so anything I ask is going to irrelevent being more practically minded.
Sovereignty is that authority that does not recognize any other authority equal or superior to itself within it's domain
@Myth Why do you need to believe a God exists? What does it mean to you. Why do you need to convince others of you're beliefs.
ill bring you up next legalize
thats a question for Pius
yess spader ill bring it up
@Myth For both: What would change your mind about your belief about (a) God?
ok legalize
Down syndrome has entered the chat.
I Like frostys q
@Mongo Jongo damn you're not wrong
Is he talking. Should I rejoin the VC
ah
now I understand why he said what he said
If you trying to be bored join
OK
changes nothing, but I can at least understand his perspective
@TheCompanyMan Try relaunching discord
That question is a whole can of worms way beyond the scope of the debate
ok will do
What was the question?
is it alright to ask how much experience does Pius have in arguments regarding Godship
Legendary
evidencial moralism doesn't exist