Thanks power range.r

well I mean it could. it just means that 'god' aka the first mover or contingency is very tiny

tbf arguing for God from the empirical realm won't work because faith is not about empiricism

yeah to be honest I think a better argument is to take God's existence for granted, and argue his character

And so tiny that it practically doesn't matter

If you're willing to modify god to mean anything that could be considered "the first" or an infinite, sure. But then you've said nothing

and without knowing his character makes it double pointless

since that is far more releveant to the actions of day to day lives

anyone even have a question? I don't, this is better left as a discussion and anything I ask will be out of scope

plus it'll just be leading the discussion later

this was cool

I rationalize god being real because the you can look in history and see that the events that happened in the Bible,actually happened

Your very existence is proof of God. God doesn’t have to be this bearded man in the sky. He is a higher being than all of us.

All the unknown will remain a mystery forever because we simply cannot fathom such things. We are lesser beings than God so we can’t try to describe Him.

same. I just feel like Pius is arguing a very pendantic point and I am not read up on the minusca of metaphysics

@Myth
For Pius,
where is the bridge between the philisophical concept of God you've argued for and any ability to know his character?

I would never try to rationalize God or his character because 1) its futile 2) it won't help man actually incorporate faith

so anything I ask is going to irrelevent being more practically minded.

Sovereignty is that authority that does not recognize any other authority equal or superior to itself within it's domain

@Myth Why do you need to believe a God exists? What does it mean to you. Why do you need to convince others of you're beliefs.

ill bring you up next legalize

thats a question for Pius

@Myth you saw my text question?

yess spader ill bring it up

@Myth For both: What would change your mind about your belief about (a) God?

ok legalize

Down syndrome has entered the chat.

I Like frostys q

@Mongo Jongo damn you're not wrong

Is he talking. Should I rejoin the VC

ah

https://dlive.tv/nickjfuentes?wnt=go_live

now I understand why he said what he said

If you trying to be bored join

OK

changes nothing, but I can at least understand his perspective

@TheCompanyMan Try relaunching discord

That question is a whole can of worms way beyond the scope of the debate

ok will do

What was the question?

is it alright to ask how much experience does Pius have in arguments regarding Godship

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