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didnt mean to step on a joke sorry

RIP sega

oof

did I just get skipped?

alright I'm good

ready when you are @Matt Christiansen

SHould be good got a new mic @Matt Christiansen

@Dangerous Spaces working through mic issues

should be good to go now

@PHG Twillikerz sadly no, a touch further south

sadly no @Dangerous Spaces

yes

sorry abt mic issues, sperging out for some reason

@Dangerous Spaces not quite. Raised in the suburbs, but love the outdoors.

@Dangerous Spaces I'm on a laptop and my new mic seems to be working fine.

Just took a few minutes to find it, and by then it was too late

@Dangerous Spaces Thanks! Should be back next week, and I hit the very end of the 8:50 mark, so time wise I just need faster reflexes....

hopefully

my tests have been good

but we'll see

@Dangerous Spaces

Pepsi

6th largest military

Meese Lives Matter

@pokemon_fetish well played

@pokemon_fetish what are your thoughts on the American Air Force's Geese Awareness Training?

@pokemon_fetish I see.

@pokemon_fetish read the first one https://www.militarymeme.com/tag:Air%20Force%20Memes

Politics is a pessimistic business.

@grant but there's not money enough to compensate the feeling of the first ATF boi opening the door and hearing illegal SBRs and oil filters being racked

@grant our tax dollars hard at work

@grant you ever see the clip where Rick Perry forgot what federal agencies he wanted to eliminate? Priceless

@grant I wish he had

Must be

I'll use a different computer next time

@Matt Christiansen on a new device if you have time for one more try

@Dangerous Spaces then I'll wait for next week I suppose

@Dangerous Spaces on the new setup people can hear

@Dangerous Spaces in hindsight I should've done that to begin with

@Dangerous Spaces I checked it with the chat room too weeks ago, and it ran fine. Fingers crossed

What just happened

@Dangerous Spaces app my desktop is why my mic won't work

This both sucks and makes me laugh

Waiting room

It's better than nothing

But hey it worked this time

Perhaps....or perhaps not

@Dangerous Spaces jk I'm not from the tech industry or California

Ain't that the truth

Funny how the people most worried about 'facism' seem to hate the greatest defense against such a government

@Legalize found your hat

Got me there

Yeah not surprised she got the ax before anyone else big

There is nothing cults hate more than mockery

https://www.reddit.com/r/redflaglawabuses/

What good ole Dan Crenshaw and the President pushing

In fairness the crusades largely predate the protestant reformation, so the meme still applies

I'm sorry what are we arguing about?

@Mandatory Carry no, I mean what's the topic

what is it that people aren't reading?

well in the meantime show me the legislation you're proposing

I assume it's a modern take on the Militia Act @Mandatory Carry ?

where can I find the specs?

yeah I'm just seeing facebook posts

with Zucc trying to get me to join his site taking up the entire lower side

alright found it

what are your objections @Legalize beyond the compulsion to carry and own firearms?

hmm

seems poorly thought out

how do you enforce this without a registry?

I guess the benefit is every private citizen is armed, but to be honest alot of people are just gonna by a hipoint and stuff it down their pants

I'm not saying I don't thing they should have guns

but if people are forced to do something alot of them are just going to take the easy way out

I assume the guns will have some sort of tracking so people don't simply refuse to comply with the law and sell their guns for something else they want?

who defines what a violent political organization @Mandatory Carry ? They're banned on your list, but I see no definition of what constitutes such a group, or what constitutes membership in said group?

I assume this is written with Antifa in mind but it seems like a hanging chad just a bit

considering that we had congresspeople comparing the tea party to ISIS

it seems like that would violate the due process we're so up in arms about red flag laws violating

since membership in something like say.....antifa is pretty losely defined nationally

You keep provisions of the Gun Free School Zones Act (of 1990) in the bill that sort of defeat the point

90% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones

it seems like if we're arming everyone barring them from schools and courthouses endorses the same logic as gun grabbers

one minute

also when we're talking about liability insurance explain to me the legal ramifications of requiring insurance for cars but banning it for guns?

that is to say, what happens when lawsuits for wrongful death start to roll in?

On the gun free zones thing, as long as everything's categorized you could require a measure of training to carry in 'soft targets' that would be completely optional and subject to more oversight

it's far from perfect but that's probably your best play under the circumstances

yes and no. If someone gets in a car wreck when with a senegalize illegal then the american citizen gets f---ed out of the money to buy a new car without insurance. More to the point in an at fault incident there is no way to cover the holpital bills without such provisions

that's the problem here

does that cover wrongful death/shooting though?

that's what I'm asking

but who pays the attorney's fees?

criminal for the defendant, civil for both?

because the way our legal system without some way to pay for a decent attorney you're f---ed

that's the other problem I have. It's not one of law, it's that good people in the gun world like Mike Jones (youtube channel GarandThumb) ends every video with a plea for his audience to get training. That problem is gonna be multiplied 100x if this passed. The beauty of the current state of affairs is the people who self select wanting to carry have a built in incentive to learn, practice, and get good training. And even with that most people are woefully underprepared

I am NOT in favor of stopping anyone based on what they can afford but the fact of the matter is that something as mundane as a negligent discharge can kill someone

the point I am making is that gun culture is largely existing within the counterculture right now, and if you force everyone (most people) to carry, there is going to be not only serious pushback but lowest common denominator mentality

legally preventing someone from stuffing a hipoint down their pants to comply is not the same thing as being concerned that someone would do it