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Well fair enough
Either way it’s a good first step
Better would be clamping down on employers and handouts
But that would require state cooperation which is gonna be a long haul
I am not well versed in US state law, but I would think that would be an uphill battle vs entrenched corp interest
It’s an uphill battle everywhere
It’s easier down here because we’re surrounded by two oceans
The threat of clamping down actually worked the same as clamping down
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We should abolish the welfare state
Anlam... don’t throw baby out with bath water. Welfare culture is good. Welfare state is bad
One of the things I like about “quiet” islamists, actually - their giving “node” is actually higher than western Christianity.
And I hold the latter in high respect, if not personal commitments
Shows strong in-group preferences
Virtue fosters freedom and not the other way around (paraphrasing Shapiro here)
Shapiro is no particular friend of mine, but I pay very close attention when he speaks on US constitutional law.
But yeah, I would go for that.
And I think in group preference is a good thing, as long as it’s of an effective size
Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasn’t failed yet
Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.
They’re charitable with their swords
Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined
Salacious... two totally different issues
True reone
It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step
I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare
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Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America
He knows.
Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.
Problem is the word itself has been corrupted
Look at how “general welfare” is seen now
Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels
The focus seems to have gone from the phrase itself and onto just welfare
And nah, see, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Shapiro as well
You mean like siphoning off 95% for other things?
His talk of moving to find jobs because free market doesn’t really stick when he himself admits living close to his parents and in-laws provide substantial benefit that can’t be measured on a simple cost/benefit scale
Rather substantial blind spot
Wrong level of economic analysis he has, pontificate he should avoid...
And considering a lot of people do the opposite, ie, move and then bring their relatives with them, it definitely provides a level of support and some other benefit that simply cannot be seen through an economic lens
His insistence on “move because there are jobs and you would perform economically better” is missing the forest for the trees
It can. Just adjust the focus on your scope. And see all the bits. He’s not an engineer nor scientist