(I had zero interest in history as a child)

Keep out Mongoloids

Lol. Build me a scity wall to keep out all them Mongorians.

Bear in mind, the Chinese wall was built over 1600 years.
It succeeded wildly in it secondary reason (keeping out general riffraff basically) and failed dismally in its primary one (keeping out major threats)
As in, not a single invasion from the north bothered with it.
If I know my premodern history, and mostly I do, temujins lot didn’t even know about it until they had missed finding it in the dark

Minor correction: *Successful* invasion. The unsuccessful ones were by definition just riffraff and nobody noticed them.

The primary reason for this wall is to keep out general riffraff though

The main reason why the Great Wall failed in its primary one is more an issue of competency within the Chinese military more than a lack of adequacy on this barrier’s part

Haha. No, trumpies wall is not to keep them out. It’s to tell them not to try

> trumpie

_Uhhhhhh_

Well fair enough

Either way it’s a good first step

Better would be clamping down on employers and handouts

But that would require state cooperation which is gonna be a long haul

I am not well versed in US state law, but I would think that would be an uphill battle vs entrenched corp interest

It’s an uphill battle everywhere

It’s easier down here because we’re surrounded by two oceans

The threat of clamping down actually worked the same as clamping down

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We should abolish the welfare state

Anlam... don’t throw baby out with bath water. Welfare culture is good. Welfare state is bad

One of the things I like about “quiet” islamists, actually - their giving “node” is actually higher than western Christianity.
And I hold the latter in high respect, if not personal commitments

Shows strong in-group preferences

Virtue fosters freedom and not the other way around (paraphrasing Shapiro here)

Shapiro is no particular friend of mine, but I pay very close attention when he speaks on US constitutional law.
But yeah, I would go for that.

And I think in group preference is a good thing, as long as it’s of an effective size

Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasn’t failed yet

Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.

They’re charitable with their swords

Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined

Salacious... two totally different issues

True reone

It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step

I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare

^

Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America

He knows.

Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.

Problem is the word itself has been corrupted

Look at how “general welfare” is seen now

Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels