Message from @Nic Harvard
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Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasn’t failed yet
Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.
They’re charitable with their swords
Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined
Salacious... two totally different issues
True reone
It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step
I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare
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Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America
He knows.
Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.
Problem is the word itself has been corrupted
Look at how “general welfare” is seen now
Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels
The focus seems to have gone from the phrase itself and onto just welfare
And nah, see, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Shapiro as well
You mean like siphoning off 95% for other things?
His talk of moving to find jobs because free market doesn’t really stick when he himself admits living close to his parents and in-laws provide substantial benefit that can’t be measured on a simple cost/benefit scale
Rather substantial blind spot
And considering a lot of people do the opposite, ie, move and then bring their relatives with them, it definitely provides a level of support and some other benefit that simply cannot be seen through an economic lens
His insistence on “move because there are jobs and you would perform economically better” is missing the forest for the trees
It can. Just adjust the focus on your scope. And see all the bits. He’s not an engineer nor scientist
You reckon?
Yup, been there, done that;)
Cause I think the benefits are something that only be measured on a communal or an emotional sense here
Not economical
That can*
It can. Which is why things like delivery works as a business
And I guess if you were to put a dollar value on someone going to a shrink or something to make up for their familial disconnect you can
I just don’t see it as the most effective way of measuring the effects
No, seriously, I’m almost strawmanning myself
Tear this apart and tell me why having my food delivered or an au pair is not long term good 👹🤯
I mean, if I can put an economic value on not preparing supper, or looking after my kids, or taxing it when I can?
> good parenting is white supremacy
Fuck me
Lol. Fool
You should be able to rip me a new orrifice better than that!!?
Nah, I see where you’re coming from, but as I said, I just don’t think it’s the most effective way of measuring it... which is kinda strange since the other ways can’t really be measured
Ah well fair enough I guess