Message from @Nic Harvard
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What was the purpose behind the Wall of China?
(I had zero interest in history as a child)
Keep out Mongoloids
Lol. Build me a scity wall to keep out all them Mongorians.
Bear in mind, the Chinese wall was built over 1600 years.
It succeeded wildly in it secondary reason (keeping out general riffraff basically) and failed dismally in its primary one (keeping out major threats)
As in, not a single invasion from the north bothered with it.
If I know my premodern history, and mostly I do, temujins lot didnāt even know about it until they had missed finding it in the dark
Minor correction: *Successful* invasion. The unsuccessful ones were by definition just riffraff and nobody noticed them.
The primary reason for this wall is to keep out general riffraff though
The main reason why the Great Wall failed in its primary one is more an issue of competency within the Chinese military more than a lack of adequacy on this barrierās part
Haha. No, trumpies wall is not to keep them out. Itās to tell them not to try
> trumpie
_Uhhhhhh_
Well fair enough
Either way itās a good first step
Better would be clamping down on employers and handouts
But that would require state cooperation which is gonna be a long haul
I am not well versed in US state law, but I would think that would be an uphill battle vs entrenched corp interest
Itās an uphill battle everywhere
Itās easier down here because weāre surrounded by two oceans
The threat of clamping down actually worked the same as clamping down
We should abolish the welfare state
Anlam... donāt throw baby out with bath water. Welfare culture is good. Welfare state is bad
One of the things I like about āquietā islamists, actually - their giving ānodeā is actually higher than western Christianity.
And I hold the latter in high respect, if not personal commitments
Shows strong in-group preferences
Virtue fosters freedom and not the other way around (paraphrasing Shapiro here)
Shapiro is no particular friend of mine, but I pay very close attention when he speaks on US constitutional law.
But yeah, I would go for that.
And I think in group preference is a good thing, as long as itās of an effective size
Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasnāt failed yet
Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.
Theyāre charitable with their swords
Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined
Salacious... two totally different issues
True reone
Itās not something Iām against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step
Iām all for helping each other out but thatās not what I meant when I said abolish welfare
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Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America
He knows.
Yeah, donāt think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldnāt get out of bed.
Problem is the word itself has been corrupted