Anlam... don’t throw baby out with bath water. Welfare culture is good. Welfare state is bad

One of the things I like about “quiet” islamists, actually - their giving “node” is actually higher than western Christianity.
And I hold the latter in high respect, if not personal commitments

Shows strong in-group preferences

Virtue fosters freedom and not the other way around (paraphrasing Shapiro here)

Shapiro is no particular friend of mine, but I pay very close attention when he speaks on US constitutional law.
But yeah, I would go for that.

And I think in group preference is a good thing, as long as it’s of an effective size

Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasn’t failed yet

Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.

They’re charitable with their swords

Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined

Salacious... two totally different issues

True reone

It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step

I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare

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Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America

He knows.

Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.

Problem is the word itself has been corrupted

Look at how “general welfare” is seen now

Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels

The focus seems to have gone from the phrase itself and onto just welfare

And nah, see, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Shapiro as well

You mean like siphoning off 95% for other things?

His talk of moving to find jobs because free market doesn’t really stick when he himself admits living close to his parents and in-laws provide substantial benefit that can’t be measured on a simple cost/benefit scale

Rather substantial blind spot

Wrong level of economic analysis he has, pontificate he should avoid...

And considering a lot of people do the opposite, ie, move and then bring their relatives with them, it definitely provides a level of support and some other benefit that simply cannot be seen through an economic lens

His insistence on “move because there are jobs and you would perform economically better” is missing the forest for the trees

It can. Just adjust the focus on your scope. And see all the bits. He’s not an engineer nor scientist

You reckon?

Yup, been there, done that;)

Cause I think the benefits are something that only be measured on a communal or an emotional sense here

Not economical

That can*

It can. Which is why things like delivery works as a business

And I guess if you were to put a dollar value on someone going to a shrink or something to make up for their familial disconnect you can

I just don’t see it as the most effective way of measuring the effects

No, seriously, I’m almost strawmanning myself

Tear this apart and tell me why having my food delivered or an au pair is not long term good 👹🤯

I mean, if I can put an economic value on not preparing supper, or looking after my kids, or taxing it when I can?