Message from @Nic Harvard

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2019-01-11 00:39:22 UTC  

The primary reason for this wall is to keep out general riffraff though

2019-01-11 00:40:04 UTC  

The main reason why the Great Wall failed in its primary one is more an issue of competency within the Chinese military more than a lack of adequacy on this barrier’s part

2019-01-11 00:40:56 UTC  

Haha. No, trumpies wall is not to keep them out. It’s to tell them not to try

2019-01-11 00:41:15 UTC  

> trumpie

2019-01-11 00:41:19 UTC  

_Uhhhhhh_

2019-01-11 00:41:24 UTC  

Well fair enough

2019-01-11 00:41:49 UTC  

Either way it’s a good first step

2019-01-11 00:42:04 UTC  

Better would be clamping down on employers and handouts

2019-01-11 00:42:21 UTC  

But that would require state cooperation which is gonna be a long haul

2019-01-11 00:49:26 UTC  

I am not well versed in US state law, but I would think that would be an uphill battle vs entrenched corp interest

2019-01-11 00:49:52 UTC  

It’s an uphill battle everywhere

2019-01-11 00:50:05 UTC  

It’s easier down here because we’re surrounded by two oceans

2019-01-11 00:50:19 UTC  

The threat of clamping down actually worked the same as clamping down

2019-01-11 00:50:43 UTC  

Zacharylity)

2019-01-11 00:50:50 UTC  

We should abolish the welfare state

2019-01-11 00:52:01 UTC  

Anlam... don’t throw baby out with bath water. Welfare culture is good. Welfare state is bad

2019-01-11 00:54:21 UTC  

One of the things I like about “quiet” islamists, actually - their giving “node” is actually higher than western Christianity.
And I hold the latter in high respect, if not personal commitments

2019-01-11 00:59:49 UTC  

Shows strong in-group preferences

2019-01-11 01:00:09 UTC  

Virtue fosters freedom and not the other way around (paraphrasing Shapiro here)

2019-01-11 01:01:49 UTC  

Shapiro is no particular friend of mine, but I pay very close attention when he speaks on US constitutional law.
But yeah, I would go for that.

2019-01-11 01:02:56 UTC  

And I think in group preference is a good thing, as long as it’s of an effective size

2019-01-11 01:04:47 UTC  

Switzerland is my best case study on cusp issues here. 400 year old experiment which hasn’t failed yet

2019-01-11 01:05:42 UTC  

Islamic charity is a funny way to say convert or be beheaded.

2019-01-11 01:06:22 UTC  

They’re charitable with their swords

2019-01-11 01:06:34 UTC  

Welfare culture is just another way of saying a tight knit community which the left worked to and have to a large extent successfully undermined

2019-01-11 01:06:44 UTC  

Salacious... two totally different issues

2019-01-11 01:06:53 UTC  

True reone

2019-01-11 01:07:06 UTC  

It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step

2019-01-11 01:07:18 UTC  

I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare

2019-01-11 01:07:23 UTC  

^

2019-01-11 01:07:29 UTC  

Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America

2019-01-11 01:07:59 UTC  

He knows.

2019-01-11 01:09:14 UTC  

Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.

2019-01-11 01:09:35 UTC  

Problem is the word itself has been corrupted

2019-01-11 01:09:44 UTC  

Look at how “general welfare” is seen now

2019-01-11 01:10:06 UTC  

Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels

2019-01-11 01:10:27 UTC  

The focus seems to have gone from the phrase itself and onto just welfare

2019-01-11 01:10:40 UTC  

And nah, see, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Shapiro as well

2019-01-11 01:11:11 UTC  

You mean like siphoning off 95% for other things?

2019-01-11 01:11:30 UTC  

His talk of moving to find jobs because free market doesn’t really stick when he himself admits living close to his parents and in-laws provide substantial benefit that can’t be measured on a simple cost/benefit scale

2019-01-11 01:12:03 UTC  

Rather substantial blind spot