Message from @Corset

Discord ID: 316106508641239040

2017-05-22 06:45:05 UTC  

Classics did stay

2017-05-22 06:45:08 UTC  

for a reason

2017-05-22 06:45:37 UTC  

What reason?

2017-05-22 06:46:16 UTC  


2017-05-22 06:46:43 UTC  

Of its time

2017-05-22 06:47:51 UTC  

@Deleted User you know the reaction of most people on Soviet art, right?

2017-05-22 06:48:05 UTC  

@Corset It's pretty?

2017-05-22 06:48:23 UTC  
2017-05-22 06:49:06 UTC  

@Deleted User We are just to enjoy it really. As a little extra.

2017-05-22 06:49:42 UTC  

Actually, it is really good.

2017-05-22 06:50:19 UTC

2017-05-22 06:50:27 UTC  

Quality is important at all times.

2017-05-22 06:50:45 UTC  

Unless it is quantity.

2017-05-22 06:50:51 UTC  

or a measure.

2017-05-22 06:51:19 UTC  

I see.

2017-05-22 06:51:50 UTC  

@Deleted User what do you see?

2017-05-22 06:52:18 UTC

2017-05-22 06:52:31 UTC  

I would like to know why it is quality. Because it expresses realism over impressionism?

2017-05-22 06:52:55 UTC

2017-05-22 06:53:37 UTC  

Any quality can be taken outside of its time. The best might stay.

2017-05-22 06:54:24 UTC  

For a time

2017-05-22 06:54:31 UTC  

You mean that the best qualities are enduring? They survive the dialectal process? They survive like in evolution?

2017-05-22 06:55:34 UTC  

@Deleted User of course. The best qualities are not even qualities. They are the essence.

2017-05-22 06:56:35 UTC  

Essence? (I am newish to diamat)

2017-05-22 06:57:17 UTC  
2017-05-22 06:57:36 UTC  

@Deleted User essence is a dialectical matter.

2017-05-22 06:57:40 UTC  

It changes

2017-05-22 06:57:44 UTC  

all the time

2017-05-22 06:57:56 UTC  

But stays

2017-05-22 06:58:00 UTC  

at the same time

2017-05-22 06:59:36 UTC  

OK, so how come we have such shitty art and music nowadays (in general)? Is it because the subjective is a reflection of the objective, and those in the capitalist system are infected with a 'class virus', and thus reflected poorly on the art they produce?

2017-05-22 07:00:31 UTC  

@Deleted User the profit motive of the creation of the quality is a pure perversion of all things.

2017-05-22 07:00:55 UTC  

Wow, that makes a lot of sense.

2017-05-22 07:02:04 UTC  

Is a pure destruction of quality.

2017-05-22 07:02:16 UTC  

The degeneracy.

2017-05-22 07:03:54 UTC  

@Corset Do you think as class consciousness increases so does the quality of art?

2017-05-22 07:04:07 UTC  

Less perverted?

2017-05-22 07:04:53 UTC  

@Deleted User yes. The quality of art is able to meet the beauty of the reality.

2017-05-22 07:05:40 UTC  
2017-05-22 07:06:27 UTC  

That's a pretty powerful thought. Materialism lets you see the world for what it is, without superstitious perceptions, and the standard increases everywhere.

2017-05-22 07:07:23 UTC  

You could say that religion hijacked beauty.