Message from @Corset
Discord ID: 316107414057517067
Quality is important at all times.
Unless it is quantity.
or a measure.
I see.
@Deleted User what do you see?
I would like to know why it is quality. Because it expresses realism over impressionism?
Any quality can be taken outside of its time. The best might stay.
For a time
You mean that the best qualities are enduring? They survive the dialectal process? They survive like in evolution?
@Deleted User of course. The best qualities are not even qualities. They are the essence.
Essence? (I am newish to diamat)
@Deleted User essence is a dialectical matter.
It changes
all the time
But stays
OK, so how come we have such shitty art and music nowadays (in general)? Is it because the subjective is a reflection of the objective, and those in the capitalist system are infected with a 'class virus', and thus reflected poorly on the art they produce?
@Deleted User the profit motive of the creation of the quality is a pure perversion of all things.
Wow, that makes a lot of sense.
Is a pure destruction of quality.
The degeneracy.
@Corset Do you think as class consciousness increases so does the quality of art?
Less perverted?
@Deleted User yes. The quality of art is able to meet the beauty of the reality.
That's a pretty powerful thought. Materialism lets you see the world for what it is, without superstitious perceptions, and the standard increases everywhere.
You could say that religion hijacked beauty.
@Deleted User materialism doesn't even care.
It just is
@Corset No, materialism doesn't care. But if our subjective reflects the objective, the quality of our products increase?
@Deleted User If you do things according to how they are?
Completely possible.
I mean, you said that profit motive perverts quality, which makes art shitty. Which means, that socialism makes art better, by increasing quality.
@Deleted User yes.
Materialism makes everything its own
but also relative