Message from @peytonT

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2018-02-23 22:20:43 UTC  

@peytonT#2360 @Deleted User how would you guys recommend I modify it? It was given to me by a guy I know who is really knowledgeable about fitness

2018-02-23 22:41:16 UTC  

^tbh yeah. 7 minutes easy run. Currently hitting 405 squat dubs

2018-02-23 22:52:33 UTC  

Did someone mention supplements?

2018-02-23 22:52:48 UTC  

*Rubs GNC Merchant hands together*

2018-02-23 22:52:51 UTC  

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola I would do your own research, bro. Take the fitness redpill. Nearly every 'knowledgeable about fitness' guy will have different opinions

2018-02-23 22:53:25 UTC  

if he doesn't deadlift, he's probably a scrub tho

2018-02-23 22:53:41 UTC  

kek

2018-02-23 22:54:02 UTC  

i do my own research but there's so much information out there it's hard to sift the good from the bad

2018-02-23 22:54:07 UTC  

I'll get to you on Creatine later, at work there right now actually lol. But long story short, Creatine Monohydrate or HCL is good as long as you're drinking water and aren't afraid of possible "Fluffiness".

2018-02-23 22:54:35 UTC  

and then i'm not sure what works or what doesn't and end up not doing anything because I don't know what works best

2018-02-23 22:59:34 UTC  

Take creatine

2018-02-23 23:00:06 UTC  

It’s the most researched supp out there. Normal monohydrate is fine. You should already be drinking enough water anyway

2018-02-23 23:00:36 UTC  

If you aren’t at 1.5 gallons a day and you’re active you should be. 5-10g creatine won’t destroy you

2018-02-23 23:16:32 UTC  

drinking water is kinda mainstream so i abstain from it

2018-02-23 23:22:41 UTC  

What about 1.5 gallons of tea 🇬🇧

2018-02-23 23:23:40 UTC  

1.5 gallons of milk

2018-02-23 23:31:46 UTC  

As someone who is lactose intolerant that might kill me lmao

2018-02-23 23:33:12 UTC  
2018-02-23 23:33:48 UTC  

Everything about this video sucks. Sorry but it’s what I got today. Finally about to eat for the first time

2018-02-24 00:36:27 UTC  

You had two more reps.

2018-02-24 01:23:46 UTC  

Was only programmed For two reps

2018-02-24 02:22:36 UTC  

@peytonT thanks for your thoughts.
@Suomi Stronk I look forward to your supplement-industry-insider insights

2018-02-24 02:23:32 UTC  

Would it be better to just talk in voice? @ThisIsChris

2018-02-24 02:24:28 UTC  

OK!

2018-02-24 02:24:41 UTC  

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola Can I talk to you in voice about it?

2018-02-24 02:25:16 UTC  

@Suomi Stronk i've got a friend coming over in a bit but i can hop in for a few minutes until he gets here

2018-02-24 02:25:41 UTC  

Gotcha. I'm getting in now. On mobile so excuse me there.

2018-02-24 02:27:04 UTC  

can you hear me?

2018-02-24 02:28:02 UTC  

oh shit my buddy just got here @Suomi Stronk

2018-02-24 02:28:07 UTC  

let me know when you're free some other time to chat

2018-02-26 06:25:07 UTC  

A few weeks ago I mentioned in this chat that my gym owner (former champ of some sort) has as a program for absolute beginners Day 1 of week Squats and Bench 3x8 work sets, Day 2 Squats and Bench 4x6, Day 3 3x8 Deadlift and Ancillary Deadlift exercises. I mentioned that in this chat and got a lot of comments that "Sounds great sounds like the guy knows what he's doing" and in particular when contrasting with SS I heard from here and other people I've talked to that "Yeah the 3x8 is better than Rippetoe's 3x5 for a beginner, you need to build volume". At the time it sounded reasonable, and I am used to the 3x8 sets now, but another friend who follows SS to the letter asked me why 3x8 would be better than 3x5 for a beginner. I could say "You need to build volume" but I realized I don't actually know what I would mean by that. Can anyone please explain?

2018-02-26 07:03:02 UTC  

I don't get why you would need to build volume for the sake of volume

2018-02-26 07:03:20 UTC  

when I ran SS I was able to progress so fast, and likely faster than I would have with 3x7

2018-02-26 07:03:22 UTC  

Adding more reps or sets is adding volume. Volume being the total amount of lifts. I assume he is suggesting that higher volume is better, and as a beginner you benefit more with extra volume. For example, in a lot of Sheiko routines, the volume is added by the amount of sets instead of reps. You'll end up doing 7-8 sets, but for lower rep counts. As you get further into strength programming and start to use things like Sheiko, Smolov, or Westside, having that "built volume" will help prepare you more than a 3x5 I think. 3x5 is barely anything. 15 reps? 3x8 adds almost 10 reps to your count

2018-02-26 07:03:22 UTC  

3x8 too

2018-02-26 07:04:30 UTC  

My bench progressed faster with volume, whereas my squat progressed much faster with 3x5*

2018-02-26 07:06:05 UTC  

Russian coaches say that you should train smaller muscle groups with more volume and larger muscle groups with less volume

2018-02-26 07:06:18 UTC  

So that makes sense! How interesting

2018-02-26 12:56:38 UTC  

I think that the idea of volume for beginners is that you are still getting use to the movement, and if you are adding weight in proper intervals, then for a while you will be lifting less weight that your body really needs to stimulate growth. This is due to the fact that your muscles are just getting use to moving this was and not necessarily that they can't lift more weight.

2018-02-26 12:57:43 UTC  

By adding volume you are exhausting the larger muscles due to work load without needing much weight and also hitting smaller muscles groups that will be called upon once the larger groups get tired.

2018-02-26 12:58:09 UTC  

But I don't have any science at my finger tips to back that up. @ThisIsChris