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2017-12-30 16:52:57 UTC  

If an intro is too confusing or dry, I usually make a point to read it at least after I read the whole text.

2017-12-30 17:14:07 UTC  

Most forwards to books spoil the book anyway. Read it after.

2017-12-30 18:15:26 UTC  

Some forwards do tend to do that

2017-12-30 18:16:12 UTC  

i haven't started yet or put my hands on it

2017-12-30 18:16:28 UTC  

but @DeusVolk intro post motivating af

2017-12-30 18:16:44 UTC  

have we set an official start date or # of pages/week we are reading?

2017-12-30 18:18:03 UTC  

@Zyzz I think we'll pick 1/5 to start to ensure everyone has a copy. Judging from the poll last night, we will be doing 50 pages weekly.

2017-12-30 18:18:22 UTC  

I will post an announcement in a few hours, just giving more time for people to vote.

2017-12-30 18:21:55 UTC  

Also, if you do not have a copy or do not think you will have one by 1/5, send me a message and we'll get you taken care of.

2017-12-30 18:33:59 UTC  

Im in the same boat @Pavel Cristović but now im hyped without even reading the first page!

2017-12-30 18:51:40 UTC  

Guessing someone's thought about this, but auto repagination is going to make figuring out if you're on the mark for the 50 pages tough. Not sure how to sort that out. Any ideas?

2017-12-30 19:00:44 UTC  

I have thought about this and figured the format could be different for kindle. We could go by chapters to help fix this issue, chapter 3 is 65pgs, we could probably stop there.

2017-12-30 19:01:18 UTC  

Considering the book begins on page 9, it shouldn't be too big of a difference.

2017-12-31 03:31:02 UTC  

So botm is Why we fight?

2017-12-31 03:31:43 UTC  

@Deleted User looks like it

2017-12-31 03:32:17 UTC  

Alllllllllrighty then

2017-12-31 03:44:13 UTC  

I ordered it last night, so it will be here Tuesday I think.

2017-12-31 03:50:09 UTC  

Is that a fairly new book.

2017-12-31 03:50:11 UTC  

?

2017-12-31 03:50:47 UTC  

Why We Fight? 2012 I think

2017-12-31 03:51:17 UTC  

Ok

2017-12-31 03:52:39 UTC  

@Deleted User Why, you making sure you're buying the right one?

2017-12-31 04:23:22 UTC  

Aye. 29 buckaroos. Worth it

2017-12-31 06:30:55 UTC  

It’s a 2011 translation of a 2001 book. Sort of eerie how it predates what we see now so well.

2017-12-31 23:52:57 UTC  

I have my copy to reread, I'll try to participate

2018-01-01 19:41:18 UTC  

@Hessian You'll probably have to order it online

2018-01-01 19:42:26 UTC  

I like the name, btw. Good call back to a uniquely German part of history

2018-01-01 20:25:25 UTC  

Interesting that Faye doesn't talk about the JQ at all does he? I think I read in the forward of the copy of Why We Fight that I have (or maybe it was online) that he used to speak on the JQ, but then had a change of heart on it. Is that true?

2018-01-01 23:55:24 UTC  

Hes in Europe

2018-01-02 02:51:27 UTC  

Faye's position on the JQ is a complex subject. For a detailed analysis of Faye and the JQ i would recommend Michael O'Meara's books *New Culture, New Right* & *Guillaume Faye and the Battle of Europe*

2018-01-02 03:29:33 UTC  

I think Faye largely ignores, but is aware of the JQ, because he knows the real cure for our sickness is strengthening the European peoples first

2018-01-03 00:57:00 UTC  

Got my copy of Why We Fight in the mail. Might get a bit of a headstart if i get the chance to read.

2018-01-03 03:48:14 UTC  

It is unfortunate that Faye takes the line that America is a country for anyone, and not just whites.

2018-01-03 03:49:20 UTC  

Does he ever address Australia and Canada? Or does he view them same as the US?

2018-01-03 03:51:20 UTC  

His 'America is for everyone' line isn't consistent with his AmRen and NPI speeches. A lot of the book seems like rhetoric for Continential readers.

2018-01-03 03:51:31 UTC  

I'm only about a fifth way of the way done - he hasn't talked about them yet

2018-01-03 03:54:25 UTC  

Faye conflates geopolitics and ideology quite a bit. One of my serious problems with him is the antiamericanism throughout the book. The geopolitical criticism is sound, but projecting that onto a cultural critique of America is very irresponsible.

2018-01-03 03:56:16 UTC  

The problem here is the assumption that US foreign policy is guided by rational self-interest, instead of ideology.

2018-01-03 04:00:28 UTC  

He modifies that position quite a bit in *Convergence of Catastrophes* and his later books. Anti-americanism is deeply engrained in Alain de Benoist and GRECE. Faye's more recent stance is actually distinctly friendly toward America in comparison

2018-01-03 04:03:22 UTC  

Benoist's critique of America is essentially justified and extremely valuable IMO, even if we might want to dismiss aspects of it

2018-01-05 03:27:01 UTC  

His criticisms of the Greens are pretty good