I don't, I was wondering what a woman's perspective was, I should have clarified.

Just get this tatted on your chest so she knows you're not only rich, but have great taste

Put that thing away.

@John O - owo

So this girl at my church, when I first asked her on a date she said she was too busy with schoolwork when she cancelled our first planned date on me. Then when the semester ended I asked her again and she said she was busy with graduation, so I told her to let me know if she's ever free. But now graduation is over, do I try again to schedule a date or do I just consider this ship sailed unless she reaches out to me?

If she was interested she would have found time

that was my thinking

^^^

but she also just graduated from high school

so she's not the most mature person

obviously

she's only a couple years younger than me, before anyone says anything about that

If shes down, she will make the effort to contact YOU.

Young girls like that are fickle as hell

ship status: sailed

eyes toward the future i guess

Indeed mein freund

Next time that happens, press a little harder, like "well you're going to need a snack break. Let's meet at _________"

i probably could've done something like that

i was worried about coming on too strong

maybe me asking when the semester was over is what did that

Yea of course you were worried about that. It's hard to find the right balance.

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola if you have nothing to lose socially, go for it again. If she's part of your church and you're worried about a bad reputation, lay off of it

i think i might just give it time

and if we interact in person at church more

maybe give it a shot

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola my experience was that people weren't really stable people when it came to dating until they were 23. I assume it's something about hormones and settling down, not really sure. Also I don't think it's a hard rule, but I would use it as a guideline. Not sure how old you are but dating a woman slightly older than you isn't bad if you want to give the 23+ thing a shot.

@ThisIsChris i'm turning 23 in July. Church girl by comparison is 18

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola Even though I would root for you, this has all the signs of something that won't work out the way you were hoping.

yeah, i have similar feelings but I'm not sure if that's just me rationalizing out of being in pain over it

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola sounds like acceptance

1. "She'll probably hit me up."
2. "why would she show interest in me and invite me to sit next to her if she wasn't interested in me?"
3. "i'll just ask her again sometime."
4. "tfw no trad orthodox church girl gf"
5. "probably wouldn't have worked out anyway"

haha amazing

IMO, the problem is one-itis. Find another lead or two and pursue them, then consider coming back to this one after the focus is not so narrow and naturally your confidence around her will be higher too.

^

The women on Christian Mingle are incredibly traditional. Multiple profiles saying their main life goal is to be a good mother.

Already back into it, good for you, @Tanner - SC

Yeah, religion can be a good proxy for traditionalism. I know a few guys that met their wives at church

I heard this pick-up line is really effective:
Fight demographic decline, be mine!