I think what we want is not neccessarily elders heeded but rather *tradition* heeded

yep just a sec

I'm a voting member of my church and will eventually be an elder. In order to get there though I had to start from the bottom. To try to redirect this back to a conversation about being single I think that sometimes we tend to think more about the ends than the means. You can't introduce yourself to a girl with a marriage proposal. You have to be willing to start small and be patient.

Very true. Putting cart before horse is a problem for the very intelligent as well as the identitarian, i.e. ethnostate speculation when most white people aren't pro-white...

What if you’re 🅱agan

Good luck finding a pagan gf lol

Hard to even find pagan guys to hang out with much less a pagan girl who isn't a whale

@Sherlock Sad but true. For every Blonde Buttermaker there are 33 bluehair, fat, leftist wiccans

Haha yeah the struggle is real

https://twitter.com/thefaceberg/status/1045888049240928256

https://twitter.com/thefaceberg/status/1045889044368908290

https://twitter.com/thefaceberg/status/1045893361444384768

Very good points.

Well put, my big issue is that I have trouble striking up conversations with strangers without feeling like a creep

@Nicholas1166 - NY Same here.

And I live way out in the sticks. No real activity groups to speak of

Sorry to hear that man. It's already hard for me and I'm near plenty of people, I can't imagine how bad it is in a sparsely populated area

Yeah.. I guess I am just focusing on my classes (I commute an hour one way to college) and lifting. Maybe in the spring...

Yeah, same I guess. It's probably better I spent my efforts on self improvement, but its still a little depressing at times

Striking up conversations just takes practice. You only feel like a creep because so many women complain about "creepy men" bothering them

pro tip: be attractive

I'm not unattractive, just uncomfortable

IMO at least

I kind of have a weak chin. It isn't terrible, but the neck fat that won't disappear doesn't help. I am working on getting contacts to replace glasses though.

You're probably fine

I've taken enough selfies to know now that you can make your chin look stronger just by jutting it out a tiny bit, not ridiculously so it's like underbite though

just like, line up your teeth where they should naturally fit

A girl's body language tells you how she feels about you more than anything else you can pick up in a conversation

What should I look for in particular? Are there any tell-tale body signs that have worked for you guys?

honestly, you'll know

Yeah, pretty much you'll just know, but it something you'll have to start paying attention to.

There used to be some videos on the subject but they all got taken down because it's sexist to recognize micro expressions

For good reason too, readable body language is a tool of male dominance

But thanks for the advice so far, I'll definitely be more aware of it going forward

like, if you're not full on autistic (literaly they're unable to recognize body language and emotion), you're fine lol

oh and experiment with your facial hair

I find for me, a great shave really makes my jaw stronger

Yeah, same, whenever I have the time I always stay clean shaven

though I still want a beard... In time 🙄

@Nicholas1166 - NY That's exactly why those videos were taken down lol. People used to get so worked up over the idea that there are observable beta and alpha traits. Even though one of the videos was just comparing footage of gorillas in the wild.

The virgin/Chad meme really changed the game.