Yeah...

We can't have a real discussion about economics or any other aspect of running a civilization while we have basically a tribal cold war at all times in our polity

Once we have our own place and all actually want what's best for its people we can discuss how to get there

Since there are more fault lines, the steaks are much higher. In a white community where everyone accept the premise that politics should ultimately benefit the people, it's a lot easier to discuss even the most controversial issues.

What the Us has now is not even politics in like an ideological sense

True...we need to move our people forward. Priority is unifying a paneuro (white) people group.

White, non-Semitic.

This is anecdotal, but, an example is Poland. People have their opinions and no one really cares if you disagree with them. When I tell people who visit from Poland about how it's dangerous to have certain opinions here, they thing it's absurd.

Even to the more liberal people living in Poland it's weird to them that I should worry about being open about supporting Trump

@Jacob same experience with Italians

@Jacob I met some based Poles in Ireland. But they did leave Poland so IDK how based they can be

Yeah, friends of mine who really never " grew up " can never understand why I would be on one of the polarizing ends of opinions.

@Nemets I noticed Eastern European stores in the US have a crazy disproportionate amount of products from Lithuania and Latvia

especially Latvia

Interesting how people feel free in the right leaning countries and not the left leaning ones

Look at the labels next time you go to a Russian store, everything is "Product of Latvia"

@Sam Anderson Were English/Irish/Scots/French who came to America in the first wave based?

it's really weird

Is it just cheaper than other countries to get from Latvia @Jacob ?

@Jacob I wonder if there's some trade deal thing that incentivizes that.

" A nation for white men of good character " I'de say that's about based incarnate

Yes, but Ukraine is an anomaly @Nemets

BLUE microphones are from Latvia

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Well they went over and colonized, instead of being menial laborers, so yes.

.... why Latvia

Okay well conquered

@Asatru Artist - MD You'd think the cheapest countries to get it from would be the poorer ones, and, as far as I know, Latvia isn't particular poor as far as Eastern European countries go

@ophiuchus dude I have no idea
they literally imported *bread* from Latvia

Hahaha

@Sam Anderson which involved quite a bit of labor. But if you're making a "they did it without welfare" type point, then okay.

@Nemets I think they're usually run by Ukrainians in my area

It’s really not. Latvia and Estonia are easily some of the wealthier Eastern European countries

Why haven't the Eastern European countries pulled themselves out of poverty? @Jacob Any ideas?

I’m gonna import flour from the Vatican

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN They came over to do their own thing really. They did not come to be the next generation of HVAC guys, they came to take land for their own people.

@Asatru Artist - MD A massive reason for that is brain drain. Part of the reason I'm so anti-immigration is because it harms my ancestral homeland.

Maybe it's harder for non-coastal cities to be self-sustaining

@Sam Anderson Okay, so you cite a modern trade. Were none of the British/Irish colonists the 1700s equivalent: blacksmith, cobbler, cooper?

I have like. No idea what Eastern European culture is like, really. At a micro level. I made pierogis once. They’re based.

I don't blame people for TRYING to find economically better situation. Whether they should be ALLOWED to by other countries, is, of course, a different situation.

People will always try to do what's best for themselves.