Message from @Papa Pizzagate
Discord ID: 506301998463844352
I've been wanting to start something locally for a long time but finding people isn't easy
@Argument of Perigee "_Who's that new guy? He got game._"
Mad game
Wow! Uh-Is-Is that the new guy?! He's funny.
looks like gab is dead guys
They're about to lose their DNS host, it seems. So, ya
only place we can have free speech is gone
They have until tomorrow at 6pm MST to find a new host
they probably won't
_"GetOnGab @ 127.0.0.1 - where you don't need a DNS entry, just an IP address."_ RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP
I didn't realize Gab was ever alive
Gab was doing pretty well
A ton of Brazilians got on it
They got like $10 million in crowdfunding, or somesuch. They have tons of money
i sure hope that 10 million can do something.
is a web host that difficult to start up? with that cash and talent, i don't see why they couldn't just be a host themselves
Yes, a DNS service is ungodly expensive.
$10M expensive? 🤔
triple, minimum.
You basically need to buy an entire backbone's worth of infrastructure
oof
its pretty disheartening that these megacorps can destroy free speech like this
The "guys" who got in the game in the early 90's are running a serious racket on DNS hosting across the internet backbone(s). You have to duplicate everything they've done both electronically and physically with hardlines to get it all to "work" together.
in a blink of an eye
@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL additionally new DNS services cannot be created, due to recent legistlation, if memory serves.
Only the purchase and transfer of existing DNS registrars, no?
I don't even want to try to imagine it. I just know how much of an issue it was back then when we complained about it, and the predictions obviously came true.
@Papa Pizzagate “if you don’t like the rules, just create your own platform”
RIP freedom.
There's tens of thousands of servers in just the USA alone that redirect domain names to a set few DNS hosts, which then redirect IP traffic to IP's based on what those domain names are registered to. Creating a new DNS host would be 100x the daunting task that "Y2K" created...for those of you familiar with that insanity we dealt with in the late 90's
perhaps 10000x
b/c the internet has grown exponentially since then
Theoretically, the Right could have a pure FOS platform if they 1.owned their own Domain Registrar 2. owned their own bank or credit union, but even then CC companies (not processors, companies) could refuse to work with them.
Notably, a few months ago Robert Spencer (not Richard) of ShariaWatch was denied CC processing through either Discover or Mastercard.
In other words: "The Right" would have to create an entirely new financial backbone which operates on an entirely separate global internet backbone, recognized by every country of the world. It's just not possible with any amount of money thrown at it, so long as politics and media reject it
This sort of thing should be opening people's eyes to the dangers of globalism, btw.
@Papa Pizzagate Yeah, but, and not to wax nihilistic here, what good does it do to found all of the entities necessary for a FoS platform if there are anti-discrimination laws in the place that *guarantee* that parties likely to subvert it, too, will inevitably find their way into management...? 😑
Just moaning to moan. Obviously, something does have to be done.
What if we just make our own internet?
@Logan it's honestly really weird how the magabomber, the shooting, Gab shut down happened all in the same week leading up to the midterms. It's extremely sketchy.