Women should also be able to handle light criticism about their gender, though. Especially because most of what we say in here doesn't apply to IE women. But point taken, sir.

We are open-minded here, amirite?

Some women and girls will signal about feminism to impress their friends, but when you dig you’ll find they’re not actual feminists, much less third wave. Keep a relatively open mind

@Matthias Absolutely. Plan to sign up soon

Yeeyee

Yes, but the minority of IE women are probably not going to stroll into a debate about the legitimate or not female behavior of women in this context. @YourFundamentalTheorum

One thing I've noticed about the younger guys in the alt/dissident right is a less than favorable view of women, which i find a bit disheartening.

true

Yes, certainly, I have noticed a member in here who seems to have a chip on his shoulder in regards to women.

it might be a pendulum effect though

Yeah I dislike hatred of women, very beta

I won't name names, but it's disheartening.

I guess it should be stated that if a lady is in IE, then she is obviously not who we are talking about. We rip on soy boy/betas even more so than modernist women

we rip on everyone, even ourselves @Flint

1. We're mixed company
2. No need to get autistic about women/men, if you understand the other as people like yourself then you will understand what you need to know

IE women are inherently trad

Acting like women are the problem is pretty beta imo.

I just want to strive for a more traditional harmony between the sexes.

@NateDahl76 I've heard people try to call incels "alt-right". It's totally ridiculous, but just meant to hurt the right more

@Asatru Artist - MD *A* promlem, though

J's are *the* problem

The sad thing about women is that they are much more likely to be "NPCs"

At least in my limited experience.

quick question what is the Brown's record this season

I haven't given up on women but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't occasionally black pilled on the state of western women

@fgtveassassin or men

>sportsball

True

@Hector we live in 21st century america, women and men have a real world to work in not some trad-meme LARP

Tbh I was manosphere before identitarian which is where it comes from. I've come to see it all as at least as much of a failure of men though, and understand this was intentionally done by malign foreign forces. Patriarchy should be upheld and the nature of women understood but no need to incelpost

One can believe in having a relatively more traditional gender. dynamic while still respecting women (unironically). That being said, some need to come to terms that some women *have* to work, with high costs of living, children, etc.

PUA is western feminism applied to liberal men

Men failed society by letting it get where it is now. Putting that of on others won't fix the issue.

But if this is too controversial we may have to drop it

You’re right, this kind of conversation isn’t useful in an identitarian movement really.

We have our failure, but to be a supreme gentleman here, women are not automotons. They should be able to see what feminism leads to and choose to not engage in it

Identity is about the folk which is half men and half women, so it is worth thinking about

As we expose feminism, many young women are rejecting it. That's a big win

A lot of women do choose to not engage with feminism At the same time women are trying to navigate the world and one "non-trad transgression" can be used to judge them unfairly

All great Indo European civilizations have been patriarchal and that term should be reclaimed from "senselessly oppressing women"

This chat is approaching an almost feminist pitch.