all religious communities could be called a cult as could all military or fraternal organizations

IE is a fertility cult

I can understand wanting to stay somewhere and make your homeland great but at what point does it become "I have to look out for my immediate family before my homeland". Which is something I can empathize with.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I know a woman whose ex husband grew up in their community but left as an adult. She gave birth amongst them and her son's paternal relatives still live there. As she tells it, it's not actually a "cult" but appears that way to outsiders.

Don't have kids if you can't support them @Trashboat

I am not in this position, just empathizing with Euro immigrants/immigrants in general

That’s exactly what someone in a cult would say @missliterallywho

@missliterallywho hmm. I don't wish them harm but I would not recommend any IE member get involved with them.

@Logan are we a fertility cult?

And what if you had kids and then things hit the fan unbeknownst to you?

As is the case sometimes

like what?

There are allegations of child abuse and "prima nocta" type actions from each leader

Like most of the reason Euro's came here

Like the reason Pilgrims came here

As a child of European immigrants, they came for bullshit reasons mostly

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN they don't have the same goals as us so of course we wouldn't join them, but they are revolting against modernity in a somewhat admirable way.

And the Pilgrims were settlers, not immigrants

Maybe yours did

Settlers build something new. Immigrants take advantage of what other people's ancestors created. To call settlers immigrants is an insult to settlers.

I'm just saying, I can understand why they do what they did.

Okay, I'll give you a genuine answer

@missliterallywho They make a good turkey sandwich and many of their girls are just my favorite aesthetic, I'll give them that credit.

Allegations of child abuse often follow insular religious groups. Doesnt mean they're always true.

I understand why immigrants come here. Because America is awesome!! 🇺🇸

@ThisIsChris cult is a word people play fast and loose with. If used accurately it could describe every denomination of popular religions. We don't use it that way because it carries a negative connotation.

Let's say you're living in your Eastern European country, war breaks out, and you're absolutely not able to fight. In that case, you should be eligible for temporary asylum, and you should be sent back the second your country gets better.

@Trashboat Is that a good answer?

Sure

@Logan yeah but don't need to be fertile to be in IE, we're not checking

Most, not all, I could see some being thrilled to live under Imperator Trump

I’m looking it up in Wikipedia and they are also know as “yellow deli people”. I’ve never heard of them.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN There was an old dude at their deli in CA who would eye me creepily every time I ate there, then send his wife over to wait on our table. They're certainly not all cool people.

@ThisIsChris I was joking about that/making a point

Real fertility cult hours

@missliterallywho gross. Sorry that happened to ya.

Christians don't check that you have been baptized or sincerely believe the teachings either

wow

just

Society

X-ians btfo

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN no big deal, kinda used to it from frequenting dive bars in my early 20s 💁