@Virgil Irrelevant. Are you going to judge the acts of heroes by their deeds or by how many people knew of them?

My dad once asked me, "so, should America not have accepted us?" when disputing my views on immigration. Honestly, no, America shouldn't have accepted us. It's kind of a paradox, because emigration creates the need for more emigration. If Poland didn't have brain drain, it would be a much nicer place, and my family wouldn't have felt the need to leave in the first place. So, ultimately, I would have benefitted.

@Virgil If you're going to discount Leif Erikson, then you have to discount every historical European figure that was temporarily forgotten due to the lack of universal literacy.

@Jacob were you born in Poland?

Not really relevant just wondering

nah I was born in Redmond

#doxxed

o shidd

If Nords had guns, there would have been colonization

@Virgil For example, unlike his inventions, the mathematical writings of Archimedes were little known in antiquity.

The natives attacked first

Nords had the Thuum though so how come they didn't?

If Beavers had guns water would not flow

Y'know, it's the end of this Saturday night, but it's so comforting to know that I can talk to people who are on my side any time. Wuh-we're not alone.

how come they didn't just shout the beothuk back

@Virgil Are we then going to discount his mathematical discoveries due to the lack of mathematical interest amongst most common Europeans?

at the time

@Deleted User Amen

@Selma this place has kept me from going insane for quite some time

@Jacob Do you think you will move back to the motherland someday?

@ophiuchus Real questions right here

I want to, yes @Zilna Jestov

@ophiuchus - Exactly. I used to feel quite isolated with my opinions and my knowledge of this clown culture.

it's nice just knowing there's a place I can chill and be around my people

@Virgil The first comprehensive compilation of his writings were not made until nearly 700 years after his death.

@Jacob Good luck, whatever you decide.

thanks

the sense of belonging that was common to every human being in the world until this last century being taken away is an extremely large contributing factor to the mental illness and loneliness afflicting everyone imo

I want to move to Poland and help the movement from there. Don't worry, I'll still send money to IE. I'll even come do activism if I'm still allowed to.

You can be the first IE ambassador to Poland

Definitely. In more tribal places with extended families, there are almost no reports of depression. I forget where I read this.

@ophiuchus This is actually a relevant point.

There actually was an IE member who did what I just described

@Rabbidsith Not temporarily forgotten, never known and no impact. Let's agree to disagree here, we're not going to convince eachother at this point

Actually, there's two IE members who moved back to Poland that I can think of

It's weirdly common

@Virgil Never known? Bullshit. Then how do I know of him?

Both I met through my state chapter

So I wouldn't be surprised if there's more

@Virgil That's absolutely hilarious. He was temporarily forgotten.

Both of them were second generation Polish and moved back