@Sacramento The police?

call your local station

@Rabbidsith So if one of us ever finds himself in a bad situation--despite our best efforts to avoid it--our guys here would abandon him because he looks bad? I'm not comfortable with that and I doubt many others are either

Fields wasn't one of us

Growing this org is indeed essential. @Papa Pizzagate

@Flint I'm not comfortable with that either. However, If I did something stupid, then I would expect and demand that the organization distance itself from me.

@Flint If I did something like that, then I would publically disavow IE to save it.

@Rabbidsith you are a great person thank you

@TMatthews Was he at the same rally as us? Yes. Wearing the same thing as us? Yes. Supporting the same thing as us? Yes. Are we wrapped up in a suit in Cville as well? Yes.

Avoid it all you want, the situation is already there

@DairyMaxx Np. Thanks.

@Rabbidsith Disavowing after the fact doesn't change anything

Whats even the point of trying to "distance" ourselves from him? Literally no one outside the movement can see the nuance.

@Flint It does.

@Flint Disavowing after the fact is exactly what the Left does all the time.

We don't get the same luxury

@Flint In fact, that's their entire ideological justification for existence.

@Flint On the contrary, we do. Look at Rules for Radicals.

@Flint What happened to JF was undoubtedly a miscarriage of justice and is representative of the anarcho-tyranny that is the American legal system today.

That said, we as IE cannot change the verdict. We have done a great deal to distance ourselves from UTR (which is why the spergs call us opticscucks). We should not waste limited capital on a cause that would only serve to undo our progress under Patrick.

Cville ruined many lives. It was a loss. Focusing our energy on the POWs isn’t an effective strategy for victory @Flint

@TMatthews I agree.

Furthermore, if the wider right finds out we've cast JAF away because we want to protect ourselves from scrutiny --expect them to cast us away

@Flint They already have.

@Flint who cares about the wider right?

@Flint Good. The wider right is a bunch of cucks.

We have to have the balls to stand up for people getting railroaded by an antiwhite justice system

@Flint We also have to ensure that we are effective in our endeavors.

@Papa Pizzagate we should always care about allies

@Papa Pizzagate @Rabbidsith Are you guys being sincere? Balkanized whites is not the path to victory, it's the opposite

Oh no! Hunter Wallace/Richard Spencer/Matthew Parrot/Chris Cantwell doesn't like us? Good. I don't want them to.

At least a little

Can members write letters and send concession petty cash outside of I.E. acknowledgement? (I suggest using a pseudonym and PO box though, or no return address at all, feds def go through the mail).

@Flint I know: hence why we shouln't make JAF into a martyr.

@Flint Think about it this way: what argument are you trying to make with JAF?

@Flint Stand up how? Do you want a banner drop? Another UTR style rally? I just don't see what we could do even if we decided this was a hill worth dying on (it isn't).

if you are arguing that our justice system is fundamentally broken, then you are effectively arguing that you don't want to be countrymen with the rest of the U.S..

@Flint Give me your talking points.

@Flint Yes. We are filthy optics cucks. That's why we win.

@Rabbidsith The Nation is the Land and People, not the Kritarchy

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN there are probably people who write letters to prisoners in IE, they probably don't talk about it.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I agree.

@Freiheit - CA Yeah I understand not mixing the two