@Flint I do find him worthy of defense.

@Flint I'm just saying that it's a bad idea in the long term.

@VinceChaos haha new calendar

@Flint What happened to him was tragic. He should have never been convicted. However, it's not practical to take him up as a cause unless the goal of this organization shifts to balkanization.

@⚡Clark⚡ our first priority is growing as an org - but we should seek to gain power in all of it's forms.

Could really use a government shutdown over wall funding right about now...

Who am I supposed to call when I found syringes? I tried the fire department twice but they haven't come

@Sacramento The police?

call your local station

@Rabbidsith So if one of us ever finds himself in a bad situation--despite our best efforts to avoid it--our guys here would abandon him because he looks bad? I'm not comfortable with that and I doubt many others are either

Fields wasn't one of us

Growing this org is indeed essential. @Papa Pizzagate

@Flint I'm not comfortable with that either. However, If I did something stupid, then I would expect and demand that the organization distance itself from me.

@Flint If I did something like that, then I would publically disavow IE to save it.

@Rabbidsith you are a great person thank you

@TMatthews Was he at the same rally as us? Yes. Wearing the same thing as us? Yes. Supporting the same thing as us? Yes. Are we wrapped up in a suit in Cville as well? Yes.

Avoid it all you want, the situation is already there

@DairyMaxx Np. Thanks.

@Rabbidsith Disavowing after the fact doesn't change anything

Whats even the point of trying to "distance" ourselves from him? Literally no one outside the movement can see the nuance.

@Flint It does.

@Flint Disavowing after the fact is exactly what the Left does all the time.

We don't get the same luxury

@Flint In fact, that's their entire ideological justification for existence.

@Flint On the contrary, we do. Look at Rules for Radicals.

@Flint What happened to JF was undoubtedly a miscarriage of justice and is representative of the anarcho-tyranny that is the American legal system today.

That said, we as IE cannot change the verdict. We have done a great deal to distance ourselves from UTR (which is why the spergs call us opticscucks). We should not waste limited capital on a cause that would only serve to undo our progress under Patrick.

Cville ruined many lives. It was a loss. Focusing our energy on the POWs isn’t an effective strategy for victory @Flint

@TMatthews I agree.

Furthermore, if the wider right finds out we've cast JAF away because we want to protect ourselves from scrutiny --expect them to cast us away

@Flint They already have.

@Flint who cares about the wider right?

@Flint Good. The wider right is a bunch of cucks.

We have to have the balls to stand up for people getting railroaded by an antiwhite justice system

@Flint We also have to ensure that we are effective in our endeavors.

@Papa Pizzagate we should always care about allies

@Papa Pizzagate @Rabbidsith Are you guys being sincere? Balkanized whites is not the path to victory, it's the opposite

Oh no! Hunter Wallace/Richard Spencer/Matthew Parrot/Chris Cantwell doesn't like us? Good. I don't want them to.

At least a little

Can members write letters and send concession petty cash outside of I.E. acknowledgement? (I suggest using a pseudonym and PO box though, or no return address at all, feds def go through the mail).

@Flint I know: hence why we shouln't make JAF into a martyr.

@Flint Think about it this way: what argument are you trying to make with JAF?

@Flint Stand up how? Do you want a banner drop? Another UTR style rally? I just don't see what we could do even if we decided this was a hill worth dying on (it isn't).