Message from @Flint

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2018-12-08 00:21:37 UTC  

@Flint As a libertarian, I agree with you. As an American I agree with you.

2018-12-08 00:21:58 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I live in a city of about 120k, but there are plenty of woods around

2018-12-08 00:21:59 UTC  

@Flint However, as a pragmatic political activist, I understand that so much of what people see as reality is entirely a fantasy.

2018-12-08 00:22:20 UTC  

@Papa Pizzagate Sounds great, but what are the specifics on that? What is "lead[ing] the path forward for our people"? What does that *look* like?

2018-12-08 00:22:41 UTC  

It's not like we're celebrating the verdict. We're simply choosing not to say anything.

2018-12-08 00:23:15 UTC  

@Flint I suspect the conference in March will answer your questions, given its name

2018-12-08 00:23:37 UTC  

If you don’t want to be arrested by the commissars in our “justice system” you’re not a real countryman

2018-12-08 00:23:55 UTC  

Why say nothing when giving a cogent and concise response to this injustice is an option? We can be specific and detailed about how this affects us with out giving tacit support to violence

2018-12-08 00:24:11 UTC  

I'm gonna drop some hard truth on you @Flint. I feel really bad for Fields and I certainly don't think he deserves his fate, but he was objectively not a sound person. He was probably mentally disturbed, he came from a broken home, he physically attacked his MOTHER a number of times. His mom told him to be careful, he responded with a menacing quote and a photo of history's most hated dictator.

I can't speak for his intentions in going, but I am not convinced it was purely to peacefully protest the removal of a statue. The same goes for the rise above guys. Most of them have served multiple years in prison, committing felonies etc. They all have some redeeming qualities, no doubt - but there was enough evidence to prosecute, and prosecute they will...

2018-12-08 00:24:14 UTC  

@Flint Therefore, unless are arguing that this organization needs to focus on balkanization: something that is readily achievable IMHO, reality takes a back seat to rhetoric. As a libertarian, nothing disgusts me more than what I'm saying.

2018-12-08 00:25:15 UTC  

1. Get our speech rights back
2. Regain our right to peacefully assemble
3. Judicial fairness

^That is the only path forward, if we even want a path to walk on ten years from now

2018-12-08 00:25:45 UTC  
2018-12-08 00:25:48 UTC  

@Flint I agree.

2018-12-08 00:26:39 UTC  

These things aren't happening under Trump and they certainly wont be happening under any other future president @Flint

2018-12-08 00:27:40 UTC  

@Papa Pizzagate it doesnt matter that he happened to be weird, it could have happened to any one of us.

2018-12-08 00:28:01 UTC  

@Papa Pizzagate All sound points but it doesn't discount what's happening to them regardless of who they are or their past. No white person will get better treatment than they are receiving when standing up to the institutions.

2018-12-08 00:28:44 UTC  

History's most hated dictator? Obama?

2018-12-08 00:29:01 UTC  

*What* is happening is more important that *who* it is happening to

2018-12-08 00:30:28 UTC  

Depends who wins

2018-12-08 00:31:02 UTC  

What's beginning is more important than what's happening. The world is a beautiful place right now for Identitarianism.

2018-12-08 00:31:56 UTC  

What's beginning will be derailed, isolated, and destroyed if we ignore what is happening *now*.

2018-12-08 00:32:29 UTC  

Having an accurate and honest survey of your conditions is just about the wisest thing a group or person can do

2018-12-08 00:33:17 UTC  

@Papa Pizzagate doesnt matter that he was weird or emotionally unstable. could have been any of us.

2018-12-08 00:34:27 UTC  

doesnt matter if he was sound or not. if his appeal doesnt go well this sort of thing sets a precedent of a complete railroading of anyone who ever for any reason whatsoever gets into any shit & is branded a racist by the media.

2018-12-08 00:35:01 UTC  

@Flint @Flint - GA However, for the sake of the movement, hold thy peace. Again, what I am saying is, on a moral level, reprehensible and I agree that you have the moral highground here.

2018-12-08 00:35:16 UTC  

gavin has the FBI down his neck despite running a multiracial group. obviously he pulled a katana on NYPD & whatnot or brandished & talked openly about violence, but the proudboys are certainly no Jewish Defense League

2018-12-08 00:35:17 UTC  

ffs server problems man

2018-12-08 00:35:26 UTC  

I disagree. Defensible people get defensible treatment.

2018-12-08 00:35:30 UTC  

LOL

2018-12-08 00:36:05 UTC  

dude if you think we would ever get a fair shake from anyone in the justice system or the media or the system at large because youre "defensible" then youre completely disconnected from reality

2018-12-08 00:36:22 UTC  

@Flint What is the end goal of that kind of rhetoric?

2018-12-08 00:36:25 UTC  

I did, Koba. In case you are forgetting...

2018-12-08 00:36:38 UTC  

Whites who don't want to die are not defensible in the eyes of the bureaucratic and journalistic priest class

2018-12-08 00:36:52 UTC  

@Flint What argument are you making?

2018-12-08 00:36:59 UTC  

lol yeah an exception is a trend

2018-12-08 00:37:03 UTC  

pragmatically

2018-12-08 00:37:42 UTC  

cantwell almost went to prison for life for discharing.... pepperspray in a clear self defense effort to de escalate a situation antagonized against him by people maliciously attempting to stir up violence

2018-12-08 00:37:49 UTC  

Perhaps Ian is right but the bar for "defensible" has just gotten a lot higher?

2018-12-08 00:37:53 UTC  

the only way he got out of that was by talking to the feds

2018-12-08 00:37:55 UTC  

@Flint What you are saying is amazing for seperatism.

2018-12-08 00:38:07 UTC  

Again. James Fields wasn't a "White who didn't want to die" He was a guy who ran down 20+ people with his car in a radically left wing college town. And you all are defending him. Get serious.