Message from @Norman

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2020-12-24 23:40:44 UTC  

lol

2020-12-24 23:40:52 UTC  

Lmao of course this Spinoza guy is a Jew

2020-12-24 23:40:56 UTC  

Study epistemology please

2020-12-24 23:41:00 UTC  

Im not a jew phaggot

2020-12-24 23:41:01 UTC  

Getting your morality from Jews <:emoji_75:771477695430393916>

2020-12-24 23:41:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789336069157289984/791812727974133810/maxresdefault.jpg

2020-12-24 23:41:06 UTC  

Morality is your assessment of a things "goodness" or "badness"

A subjective moral system is one where the things that shape personal, societal, and cultural morals are not inherent to the universe

Objective morality is one where morals are inherent to the universe

2020-12-24 23:41:06 UTC  

Spinoza is

2020-12-24 23:41:13 UTC  

I didn’t claim you were

2020-12-24 23:41:14 UTC  

Not that you can choose to not follow them

2020-12-24 23:41:23 UTC  

You can choose to not follow objective morals as well

2020-12-24 23:41:24 UTC  

Morality doesn’t have to operate in practicality

2020-12-24 23:41:31 UTC  

Like said their axioms

2020-12-24 23:41:41 UTC  

If you have objective morals, you can still kill

2020-12-24 23:41:46 UTC  

if morality is not objective, then you cant claim it is based around your society. by what standard do you determine it is morally right to follow the society's morals?

2020-12-24 23:41:53 UTC  

No

2020-12-24 23:41:54 UTC  

what

2020-12-24 23:41:59 UTC  

so then

2020-12-24 23:42:01 UTC  

Thats not a moral question

2020-12-24 23:42:02 UTC  

That's an incoherent word soup

2020-12-24 23:42:05 UTC  

is it morally acceptable to steal

2020-12-24 23:42:08 UTC  

Jesus christ you are so bad at this

2020-12-24 23:42:08 UTC  

yes/no

2020-12-24 23:42:11 UTC  

yes/no

2020-12-24 23:42:13 UTC  

Yes cuh!

2020-12-24 23:42:19 UTC  

saying your proposition again isnt an argument

2020-12-24 23:42:23 UTC  

If their definitive principle saying its not @Norman

2020-12-24 23:42:30 UTC  

use real words

2020-12-24 23:42:36 UTC  

not of that kantian bullshit

2020-12-24 23:42:45 UTC  

@Norman is the idea that it's wrong to steal fundamental to the universe or was it given to you from society

2020-12-24 23:42:45 UTC  

GG @WMLC, you just advanced to level 3!

2020-12-24 23:42:48 UTC  

That's the question

2020-12-24 23:42:56 UTC  

no

2020-12-24 23:42:59 UTC  

You have to ontologically prove that moral axioms are universal and falsifiable @Norman

2020-12-24 23:42:59 UTC  

Not whether something is good or bad or if you should do it

2020-12-24 23:43:05 UTC  

no i dont

2020-12-24 23:43:08 UTC  

yes you do

2020-12-24 23:43:11 UTC  

no

2020-12-24 23:43:15 UTC  

i dont

2020-12-24 23:43:17 UTC  

You're trying to debate which actions are moral, not where morals come from

2020-12-24 23:43:24 UTC  

Otherwise your propositions are normatively vacuous