You kids need to read spinoza

Sounds gay

Subjective doesn't mean optional

so then he can just change his morals to murder is fine

Do you even know what kantain ethics is

It means not found in a fundamental principle

yes

Jesus norman

kantian ethics is meant to be objective

@Norman thats not how morals work you chimpanzee

@Norman lol

it is

you cant just say "its subjective, but also some things are wrong"

Morals aren't the same thing as decisions

alright man im not really interested in playing this game

you are the one playing games

you want to some things and not others, so say its subjective but act like its objective

if they are subjective, there is NO REASON not to "change" your morals to allow anything

completely irrational and arbitrary

lol

Lmao of course this Spinoza guy is a Jew

Study epistemology please

Im not a jew phaggot

Getting your morality from Jews <:emoji_75:771477695430393916>

Morality is your assessment of a things "goodness" or "badness"

A subjective moral system is one where the things that shape personal, societal, and cultural morals are not inherent to the universe

Objective morality is one where morals are inherent to the universe

Spinoza is

I didn’t claim you were

Not that you can choose to not follow them

You can choose to not follow objective morals as well

Morality doesn’t have to operate in practicality

Like said their axioms

If you have objective morals, you can still kill

if morality is not objective, then you cant claim it is based around your society. by what standard do you determine it is morally right to follow the society's morals?

No

what

so then

Thats not a moral question

That's an incoherent word soup

is it morally acceptable to steal

Jesus christ you are so bad at this