Message from @scallop

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2020-12-24 23:39:00 UTC  

You kids need to read spinoza

2020-12-24 23:39:08 UTC  

Sounds gay

2020-12-24 23:39:09 UTC  

Subjective doesn't mean optional

2020-12-24 23:39:13 UTC  

so then he can just change his morals to murder is fine

2020-12-24 23:39:17 UTC  

Do you even know what kantain ethics is

2020-12-24 23:39:19 UTC  

It means not found in a fundamental principle

2020-12-24 23:39:20 UTC  

yes

2020-12-24 23:39:23 UTC  

Jesus norman

2020-12-24 23:39:27 UTC  

kantian ethics is meant to be objective

2020-12-24 23:39:27 UTC  

@Norman thats not how morals work you chimpanzee

2020-12-24 23:39:32 UTC  
2020-12-24 23:39:33 UTC  

it is

2020-12-24 23:39:41 UTC  

you cant just say "its subjective, but also some things are wrong"

2020-12-24 23:39:45 UTC  

Morals aren't the same thing as decisions

2020-12-24 23:39:48 UTC  

alright man im not really interested in playing this game

2020-12-24 23:39:56 UTC  

you are the one playing games

2020-12-24 23:40:09 UTC  

you want to some things and not others, so say its subjective but act like its objective

2020-12-24 23:40:27 UTC  

if they are subjective, there is NO REASON not to "change" your morals to allow anything

2020-12-24 23:40:41 UTC  

completely irrational and arbitrary

2020-12-24 23:40:44 UTC  

lol

2020-12-24 23:40:52 UTC  

Lmao of course this Spinoza guy is a Jew

2020-12-24 23:40:56 UTC  

Study epistemology please

2020-12-24 23:41:00 UTC  

Im not a jew phaggot

2020-12-24 23:41:01 UTC  

Getting your morality from Jews <:emoji_75:771477695430393916>

2020-12-24 23:41:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789336069157289984/791812727974133810/maxresdefault.jpg

2020-12-24 23:41:06 UTC  

Morality is your assessment of a things "goodness" or "badness"

A subjective moral system is one where the things that shape personal, societal, and cultural morals are not inherent to the universe

Objective morality is one where morals are inherent to the universe

2020-12-24 23:41:06 UTC  

Spinoza is

2020-12-24 23:41:13 UTC  

I didn’t claim you were

2020-12-24 23:41:14 UTC  

Not that you can choose to not follow them

2020-12-24 23:41:23 UTC  

You can choose to not follow objective morals as well

2020-12-24 23:41:24 UTC  

Morality doesn’t have to operate in practicality

2020-12-24 23:41:31 UTC  

Like said their axioms

2020-12-24 23:41:41 UTC  

If you have objective morals, you can still kill

2020-12-24 23:41:46 UTC  

if morality is not objective, then you cant claim it is based around your society. by what standard do you determine it is morally right to follow the society's morals?

2020-12-24 23:41:53 UTC  

No

2020-12-24 23:41:54 UTC  

what

2020-12-24 23:41:59 UTC  

so then

2020-12-24 23:42:01 UTC  

Thats not a moral question

2020-12-24 23:42:02 UTC  

That's an incoherent word soup

2020-12-24 23:42:05 UTC  

is it morally acceptable to steal

2020-12-24 23:42:08 UTC  

Jesus christ you are so bad at this