Message from @Norman
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you want to some things and not others, so say its subjective but act like its objective
if they are subjective, there is NO REASON not to "change" your morals to allow anything
completely irrational and arbitrary
lol
Lmao of course this Spinoza guy is a Jew
Study epistemology please
Im not a jew phaggot
Getting your morality from Jews <:emoji_75:771477695430393916>
Morality is your assessment of a things "goodness" or "badness"
A subjective moral system is one where the things that shape personal, societal, and cultural morals are not inherent to the universe
Objective morality is one where morals are inherent to the universe
Spinoza is
I didn’t claim you were
Not that you can choose to not follow them
You can choose to not follow objective morals as well
Morality doesn’t have to operate in practicality
Like said their axioms
If you have objective morals, you can still kill
if morality is not objective, then you cant claim it is based around your society. by what standard do you determine it is morally right to follow the society's morals?
No
what
Thats not a moral question
That's an incoherent word soup
is it morally acceptable to steal
Jesus christ you are so bad at this
yes/no
yes/no
Yes cuh!
saying your proposition again isnt an argument
If their definitive principle saying its not @Norman
use real words
not of that kantian bullshit
@Norman is the idea that it's wrong to steal fundamental to the universe or was it given to you from society
That's the question
no
You have to ontologically prove that moral axioms are universal and falsifiable @Norman
Not whether something is good or bad or if you should do it
no i dont
yes you do
no