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@TaLoN132 I imagine it is a lengthy task to organize that mountain of condemning proof.
On both sides.
Oh for sure.
Rudy and Bubbles are both caricatures of themselves. I put no claims past them. I'll just leave it at that.
Retail stores have a certain percentage allotted to fraud and abuse every year , elections are similar in that regard
For sure.
And rightfully so.
Yeah
I think it's retail stores have acceptable limits of loss due to theft tho.
Some of these states honestly need to be held accountable for their incompetence if nothing else. Incompetence and conspiracy look similar from the outside.
Yeah theft from both customers and employees stealing and breaking stuff
That doesn't mean their clientele or employees are all banned from the store.
When I was a kid I worked at pier one and this lady came in the store and broke like a 300 dollar glass table
She felt bad but we didnt charge her and just cleaned it up
You'd have to prove incompetence too, buddy. Claims are claims and people are making mountains out of naturally occurring molehills.
Letting them off for that makes for a returning customer.
Lol
@Maw Using Occum's razor, so far the evidence from Ramsland and others point more to a questionable 2016 result than a questionable 2020 result. However, Trump dispatched Pence and kris Kobach to prove that there was fraud in 2016 to explain Clinton's popular vote win. That disbanded without so much as a report in 2018. https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d
My manager broke a glass ball thing while fucking around
Fraud, bro
Lol the deep state manager
Hahaha
Dems & Republicans: Fraud, unless it helps me.
Yup
I worked for the Federal govt. Pretty confident I could make that claim with no evidence and have it stick after an investigation on any given day.
I still remember thinking 2016 was rigged in exactly the states it needed to be. It was 3 minutes ago when I was thinking that.
So... I guess Trump's own voting integrity commission should've hooked up with Ramsland. I wonder why Ramsland didn't reach out to them with the findings of his investigation. They were happening around the same time.
The sheer amount of gaslighting by all sides since 2016 has been at ridiculous levels.
That's not by accident. Lol. They know what they are doing and why.
"Poof doesn't exist."
Perhaps we are reaching the limits of what blind credulity will bear and be better off for knowing where the line is.
@Zuluzeit It is my fervent wish that leaders in both the extreme right & left wing echo chambers recognize the damage they are doing by fomenting hate & division and stop trying to whip up their respective bases to gain or maintain power, but maybe that is their intention. It is a precarious path that we find ourselves on. As a country, we need to relearn how to accept each other's differences of opinion - we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We used to recognize that embracing these differences made us stronger. (Is it time to bring back the fairness doctrine? Media companies used to be required to show all sides of an issue in an honest, equitable, and balanced way.) Our founding fathers knew that a free & independent press was vitally important for maintaining our democracy, but we are at a point in time where our country is unable to agree on basic facts. We are quick to accept witty memes, unsubstantiated claims, and assertations from our political leaders as truths if they come from someone on our own team and reject them as lies if they don't. The vast majority of Americans just want to make a decent living to provide a safe, healthy environment for our children to grow up in. That may look different to each of us, but that is Ok. Very few liberals are radicalized, so-called anti-fascists willing to commit violence to get their way. And relatively few conservatives are white-nationalist militia members ready to violently overthrow our govt. If there is a deep state, they could only control us if we are divided and destroying faith in the media would be a good way to do just that. I have stopped solely relying on any information from the MSM or RWM. I do my own research to fact check everything. And I suspect that some of the people that find themselves here do the same thing. I am glad I found this place and I am appreciative of you, @RobertGrulerEsq for starting it.
It only takes a handful of extremists to overthrow a government, destroy a nation. The difference between left and right is that the left are actively courting violent extremists and espousing/embracing their ideologies. The rest are too afraid to speak out because they see what happens to the rest of us when we do.
Republicans have been forced to answer for racism and right wing extremism for decades. But dems never ever hit the mark when pressed to acknowledge the growing danger of Brown shirt tactics and Nazi authoritarianism on display in the mainstream. We can't come together as a people until Liberals grow a spine and start putting their own in check.
@Benny2Toes agreed also we never flipped the question and corner them in their narratives of racism and freedom suppression for other Americans
@Benny2Toes It's interesting that the EXACT same thing is said by liberals on the left about the extreme rightwing. Literally the exact same thing - language and everything. It's uncanny and it certainly is not a coincidence. There is a concerted effort to keep America divided with both sides believing that they are only responding to the aggression of the evil actors on the other side. And the truth is that the extremists on both sides are acting in ways that harm our democracy. As a society, we are all acting like petulant spoiled brats certain that we hold the moral high ground because, well.. "they started it". Both viewpoints cannot be true, and I assert that both viewpoints are FALSE. America is being divided on purpose and we need to wake up before it is too late. If we, as parents, walked into a room to find our children fighting and they both started yelling that the other side started it and that they were the most aggrieved, what would we do? We'd sit them down to see if we could figure it out and when we saw that they were both behaving poorly, we'd assist them in working it out peacefully. Our extremist "leaders" are doing the opposite. They are choosing sides and convincing that side that they are in the right, theirs is the only way, and justifying violence against our own countrymen to get our way. It's hard not to feel like our democracy is in jeopardy if we can't make people realize this... Right now, the extremists on both sides have convinced us that compromise is surrender and failure. That our ideology is the only way. When did that become the American way?
Leaders actions aren't causing echo chambers, they're a symptom of echo chambers.