Message from @Alondraz
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My manager broke a glass ball thing while fucking around
What a klutz
Fraud, bro
Lol the deep state manager
Hahaha
Dems & Republicans: Fraud, unless it helps me.
Yup
I worked for the Federal govt. Pretty confident I could make that claim with no evidence and have it stick after an investigation on any given day.
I still remember thinking 2016 was rigged in exactly the states it needed to be. It was 3 minutes ago when I was thinking that.
So... I guess Trump's own voting integrity commission should've hooked up with Ramsland. I wonder why Ramsland didn't reach out to them with the findings of his investigation. They were happening around the same time.
The sheer amount of gaslighting by all sides since 2016 has been at ridiculous levels.
That's not by accident. Lol. They know what they are doing and why.
"Poof doesn't exist."
Perhaps we are reaching the limits of what blind credulity will bear and be better off for knowing where the line is.
@Zuluzeit It is my fervent wish that leaders in both the extreme right & left wing echo chambers recognize the damage they are doing by fomenting hate & division and stop trying to whip up their respective bases to gain or maintain power, but maybe that is their intention. It is a precarious path that we find ourselves on. As a country, we need to relearn how to accept each other's differences of opinion - we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We used to recognize that embracing these differences made us stronger. (Is it time to bring back the fairness doctrine? Media companies used to be required to show all sides of an issue in an honest, equitable, and balanced way.) Our founding fathers knew that a free & independent press was vitally important for maintaining our democracy, but we are at a point in time where our country is unable to agree on basic facts. We are quick to accept witty memes, unsubstantiated claims, and assertations from our political leaders as truths if they come from someone on our own team and reject them as lies if they don't. The vast majority of Americans just want to make a decent living to provide a safe, healthy environment for our children to grow up in. That may look different to each of us, but that is Ok. Very few liberals are radicalized, so-called anti-fascists willing to commit violence to get their way. And relatively few conservatives are white-nationalist militia members ready to violently overthrow our govt. If there is a deep state, they could only control us if we are divided and destroying faith in the media would be a good way to do just that. I have stopped solely relying on any information from the MSM or RWM. I do my own research to fact check everything. And I suspect that some of the people that find themselves here do the same thing. I am glad I found this place and I am appreciative of you, @RobertGrulerEsq for starting it.
It only takes a handful of extremists to overthrow a government, destroy a nation. The difference between left and right is that the left are actively courting violent extremists and espousing/embracing their ideologies. The rest are too afraid to speak out because they see what happens to the rest of us when we do.
Republicans have been forced to answer for racism and right wing extremism for decades. But dems never ever hit the mark when pressed to acknowledge the growing danger of Brown shirt tactics and Nazi authoritarianism on display in the mainstream. We can't come together as a people until Liberals grow a spine and start putting their own in check.
@Benny2Toes agreed also we never flipped the question and corner them in their narratives of racism and freedom suppression for other Americans
@Benny2Toes It's interesting that the EXACT same thing is said by liberals on the left about the extreme rightwing. Literally the exact same thing - language and everything. It's uncanny and it certainly is not a coincidence. There is a concerted effort to keep America divided with both sides believing that they are only responding to the aggression of the evil actors on the other side. And the truth is that the extremists on both sides are acting in ways that harm our democracy. As a society, we are all acting like petulant spoiled brats certain that we hold the moral high ground because, well.. "they started it". Both viewpoints cannot be true, and I assert that both viewpoints are FALSE. America is being divided on purpose and we need to wake up before it is too late. If we, as parents, walked into a room to find our children fighting and they both started yelling that the other side started it and that they were the most aggrieved, what would we do? We'd sit them down to see if we could figure it out and when we saw that they were both behaving poorly, we'd assist them in working it out peacefully. Our extremist "leaders" are doing the opposite. They are choosing sides and convincing that side that they are in the right, theirs is the only way, and justifying violence against our own countrymen to get our way. It's hard not to feel like our democracy is in jeopardy if we can't make people realize this... Right now, the extremists on both sides have convinced us that compromise is surrender and failure. That our ideology is the only way. When did that become the American way?
Leaders actions aren't causing echo chambers, they're a symptom of echo chambers.
Same as media/news companies
I didn't say that they caused echo chambers... I implied that they were using them to keep our country divided.
The echo chambers absolutely include the RWM and MSM. Also, talk radio, podcasts, social media, etc.
The division is there, and there's nothing the leaders can do to stop it. They have no discretion. They're down stream.
The river Fortune can only be bent, not dammed
@WatchingYouDaily The very conservative site, the Dispatch, has a comprehensive breakdown on this theory: https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/fact-check-debunking-the-hammer-and
Lol. Super computer. How about just a regular server?
@Alondraz Sidney Powell has been making the exact same claims since at least 11/8. She said then that she was going to file in court in a couple of days - it's been a couple of weeks. Now she claims that "everybody and their pet rock" is trying to stop her. Yet, she works for the most powerful man on the planet. She dances around the confiscated server rumor, because she knows it isn't true. She makes claims about vote switching nation-wide, but neglects to mention that their are risk limiting audits that use randomly chosen lots to hand verify the totals (some places literally role dice to choose which votes to verify). Not to mention the total hand count that took place in GA that would have exposed almost every single claim she is making: Software vote switching, software vote weighting, and running the same ballots through multiple times to skew the vote - all would have been exposed in GA which was overseen by a loyal Trump supporter. The idea that millions of votes were cast by dead people by mail is also ludicrous. The logistics involved would be daunting and would be easily exposed. The USPS (run by a Trump appointee DeJoy) would be able to see if there was a discrepancy between mail-in ballots mailed versus the number supposedly counted. If they didn't go through the mail, then they could easily prove fraud. If they went through the mail, they could easily catch and prosecute the perpetrators, because they would have to have sent the ballots where they could be intercepted to be fraudulently filled in and returned. It's not like they could just use the same bogus address for tens or hundreds of 1000's of ballots. They would have to have millions of addresses and millions of people conspiring to all commit 3 felonies for each vote (identity theft, mail fraud, vote fraud). Nobody in either party is smart enough to pull that off.
But yeah, Powell is full of shit
@DrSammyD It has to be a supercomputer to be able to spy on EVERYONE...
I'm surprised they don't just call it "Big Brother".
The only path forward is challenging the absentee ballots. Their rejection rate was 30x lower this year. Powell is leading everyone on a wild goose chase
Seems purposeful
Possibly... GA had a pretty good system. They verified signatures when the absentee request was made and then verified the signature when the vote was returned. Both times double verified, I believe. I'm not sure how they did it elsewhere.
Here in CA, all registered voters were sent a ballot. It worked really well, I think,
I was able to track my ballot through their website. They even sent me text messages when it was sent out, when they received it back, and when it was accepted.
Again GA's rejection rate tells a different story. 10x lower than last time
They explained the reduction in the rejection rate by adding the verification step to the ballot request. I wonder what the rejection rate was for the ballot request verification.
That's a plausible explanation without any confirmation, and their active blocking of checking that fact speaks to the opposite