Oh snap. Had no idea CA ran that late. Foregone conclusion anyway but damn.

@Maw I am guessing that there are questionable things that happen at every election. It is woefully dependent on humans to do the leg work. People get tired and make mistakes. They get lazy and cut corners. And there are some that are dumb and try to game the system, but, so far, those seem to have been fairly limited.

I was unaware of NY as well but same conclusion.

No argument there, I've commonly used the probability example as most likely proof of fraud.

Just the ultimate question is what scale.

And I'm taking the occam's razor stance as I usually do.

And hanlon, but yeah.

It's important to not conflate plausibility of fraud with probability of voting behavior. We have examples. Lol

I have been waiting to see Powell's firehose of evidence that she has been promising since 11/8. So far, there has not been anything concrete. Just circumstantial accusations.

I mean there is already direct evidence of it, just in small cases.

@TaLoN132 I imagine it is a lengthy task to organize that mountain of condemning proof.

On both sides.

Oh for sure.

Rudy and Bubbles are both caricatures of themselves. I put no claims past them. I'll just leave it at that.

Retail stores have a certain percentage allotted to fraud and abuse every year , elections are similar in that regard

For sure.

And rightfully so.

Yeah

I think it's retail stores have acceptable limits of loss due to theft tho.

Some of these states honestly need to be held accountable for their incompetence if nothing else. Incompetence and conspiracy look similar from the outside.

Yeah theft from both customers and employees stealing and breaking stuff

That doesn't mean their clientele or employees are all banned from the store.

When I was a kid I worked at pier one and this lady came in the store and broke like a 300 dollar glass table

She felt bad but we didnt charge her and just cleaned it up

You'd have to prove incompetence too, buddy. Claims are claims and people are making mountains out of naturally occurring molehills.

Letting them off for that makes for a returning customer.

Lol

@Maw Using Occum's razor, so far the evidence from Ramsland and others point more to a questionable 2016 result than a questionable 2020 result. However, Trump dispatched Pence and kris Kobach to prove that there was fraud in 2016 to explain Clinton's popular vote win. That disbanded without so much as a report in 2018. https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

Fair @Maw

My manager broke a glass ball thing while fucking around

What a klutz

Fraud, bro

Lol the deep state manager

Hahaha

Dems & Republicans: Fraud, unless it helps me.

Yup

I worked for the Federal govt. Pretty confident I could make that claim with no evidence and have it stick after an investigation on any given day.

I still remember thinking 2016 was rigged in exactly the states it needed to be. It was 3 minutes ago when I was thinking that.

So... I guess Trump's own voting integrity commission should've hooked up with Ramsland. I wonder why Ramsland didn't reach out to them with the findings of his investigation. They were happening around the same time.

The sheer amount of gaslighting by all sides since 2016 has been at ridiculous levels.

That's not by accident. Lol. They know what they are doing and why.